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How does it feel to walk around the game's setting, there in Miami? Is it the same as in the VC game? XD
Only if your doing an idiot head count :LOL: the rest is pretty lame, less guns, no hookers jumping in your car...at least not for 50 bucks, hell you can barely get into MGM Studios for 50 bucks :ROFLMAO:
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I still haven't played GTA 5, yes....i'm the guy you saw on the news, the one guy in all the world that haven't played it...yet.
I do like GTA, but the all MP craze behind it might make the Ip implode sooner or later.
Rockstar was making SP dlc for GTA 5 and pulled the plug for more MP garbage.....that's how you kill your Ips
if you haven't played this game how do you know they killed it? GTA5 is one of the best games I've played, I don't regret a single minute I spent there, a single line of dialogue I heard there, everything there is done with great attention to detail, with great love for their work. and yes, it's hard to believe, but no one there forces anyone to switch online.
 

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if you haven't played this game how do you know they killed it? GTA5 is one of the best games I've played, I don't regret a single minute I spent there, a single line of dialogue I heard there, everything there is done with great attention to detail, with great love for their work. and yes, it's hard to believe, but no one there forces anyone to switch online.
I can't even be within twenty feet of a speaker with the online mode running...I literally just got bored of kill shoot escape repeat, it lost the love of watch dogs pretty fast due to the same thing...for some reason its different with a hidden blade and a horse :LOL:
 

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So vic, did you curse at people in English, Russian, or Ukranian while playing online? :LOL:

I think this was my real hatred for the game, I honestly lost my urge to play it before even san andreas or vice city. I think what made it fun for me back then was the simple stupidity...and again, me and gun games of any sort dont mix. I'm literally fire and ice with a controller and a clip lol.

Ironically, I was the same with racing games before NFS Hot Pursuit Remaster completely lit a flame under me.
 
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I usually try not to play online at all.
The only exception is Battlefield, for some reason I like it there in all the games in the series that I've played, even though I don't consider myself a fan of the series at all.
I kind of figured...that was actually why I decided to bust your balls instead of someone else. We're generally from the same era of gaming, give or take...most people who were gaming during or before the NES days generally tend to hate online MP even if they did enjoy co-op while in the same room at one point...which has sadly all but vanished with the times.

My only urge to game online is with a serious racing setup in iRacing...I would have much preferred jumping on a real life race track, but I'll take what I can realistically do as far as racing goes, even though I find verhicle simulation to be terribly innacurate at its best...I figure it'll grow on me if I had a corvette style cockpit with all the gear :LOL:
 

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most people who were gaming during or before the NES days generally tend to hate online MP even if they did enjoy co-op while in the same room at one point
It depends. I played Wolfenstein 3D, and it was okay, but it seemed to me like they chose first person to be lazy about animating the player. It was also completely flat. Then everyone thought Doom was great, and I didn't like it at all. You couldn't look up and down, even though enemies were at different heights. Mazes and colored keys and backtracking are not fun. Just a lazy way to extend the playtime without making new maps.

Then Quake came out, and it was the first online MP I played, and it was a completely different game. Also 3DFX just came out making it smoother, more FPS, if kinda blurry.
co-op while in the same room at one point...which has sadly all but vanished with the times.
I did play various Nintendo couch co-op party games, and some Bomberman-like games, and they were fun too. I think the main reason they aren't around much anymore is that so few people are in the same room anymore. Also, MP is where the microtransactions sell the most.
 

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You couldn't look up and down, even though enemies were at different heights.
The game was actually 3D...in DOS, I sincerely doubt I could make a game of that quality with the same tools they used--even now, without wasting months of my life just to say I could or using the original source code like most odd gizmos that run it these days on like klondike bar packaging :LOL:

To add vertical aiming to something that actually drew a 3D map of large scale in that type of game (which had fairly decent sized maps), mostly in assembler, would have been a literal miracle of mankind when DOOM first came out.

Wolfenstein was block by block and not truly 3D, thats much easier to accomplish even though still impressive for its time...the reason wolfenstein recieved so much love was because it would run on lower memory systems when DOOM wouldn't and most home users were really lucky to own even one of those systems back then...but the difference between wolfenstein and doom from a programmer perspective is like comparing a painting to a drawing...even as a fan of wolfenstein because of my PCs limitations as I mentioned above, DOOM was IDDQD to it in a sense of skill (god mode).
I did play various Nintendo couch co-op party games, and some Bomberman-like games, and they were fun too. I think the main reason they aren't around much anymore is that so few people are in the same room anymore. Also, MP is where the microtransactions sell the most.
What I was saying in terms of co-op (personally) was more street fighter Ii, MK3, hitting arcades and doubling up on two quarter games to extend your playtime.

Your right about the reasoning...sadly its the times, and sadly most people from back then still prefer a console for simplicity...so those days are pretty much desd and buried for most of us without online faith...and nobody sane with a brain has any of that :LOL: (i'm really only speaking for myself here as usual--no need for people to get offended)

It's a past I remember fondly but don't expect to see revived unless some co-op only game made with leprechaun magic and fairy tales is released that forces people to do it and is actually good enough for them to bother on top. Again...its a pipe dresm, I don't chase the impossible...but I do remember the good ol' days 🤷‍♂️
 

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people who were gaming during or before the NES
Exactly, for this very reason!
The vast majority of games were still designed for one person, so even if my friends and I sat down to play on the console, it was in turns.
16-bit consoles were rare for us because they were expensive, so MK or Street Fighter II was a rare opportunity to punch a friend in the face on TV. Even the pirated version of Genesis was expensive, the licensed (or rather gray import) SNES cost so much money that we only went to the store a few times to watch the sellers play it.
and on the NES, fighting games weren't very good, probably only TMNT, plus a few very very bad pirated ports/demakes(?) of MK.
 

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Exactly, for this very reason!
The vast majority of games were still designed for one person, so even if my friends and I sat down to play on the console, it was in turns.
16-bit consoles were rare for us because they were expensive, so MK or Street Fighter II was a rare opportunity to punch a friend in the face on TV. Even the pirated version of Genesis was expensive, the licensed (or rather gray import) SNES cost so much money that we only went to the store a few times to watch the sellers play it.
and on the NES, fighting games weren't very good, probably only TMNT, plus a few very very bad pirated ports/demakes(?) of MK.
We grew up in the days when gaming was for when nobody else was around not the other way around 🤷‍♂️

I personally had a NES and then a Genesis but spent most of my gaming time at my friends who had a Genesis and an SNES (same friends who's father i'm staying with right now lol)...I've always preferred the nimtendo controllers and extra buttons, although Sonic gave the Genesis its own unique value...I barely touched the console because I didnt like the games for it and always wanted an SNES...speaking of that and punching people in the face on SNES, my mother had promised to buy me one (way later) if I won a 'fight' against two neighborhood kids she thought were picking on me...in truth they just always came up at random and never did enough to get my angry attention...but the funny part is I walked all over both of them when she paid them to teach me to fight :LOL:

Leggo my super nintendo biotch :ROFLMAO: never get inbetween a gamer and his dream.
 

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In the Queue 🔃⏳
thanks for the reminder
there're 10k keys

From Benjamin's post about the extention of queue room time opening:
"We extended for this drop slightly due to the increased demand for the title - we always keep an eye on traffic and adjust waiting room start time as needed. As a reminder there's no advantage to getting here early, just make sure you are here right at start time to get assigned a spot in queue. We have 10k keys for today's drop so more than likely anyone ready at start time should get a key.
 

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if you haven't played this game how do you know they killed it? GTA5 is one of the best games I've played, I don't regret a single minute I spent there, a single line of dialogue I heard there, everything there is done with great attention to detail, with great love for their work. and yes, it's hard to believe, but no one there forces anyone to switch online.
When i said "that's you kill your ips" i wasn't addressing this game, i was addressing the future if they go all in on MP instead of SP, which i mention because of the all cancellation of the story dlc they were making.
It might never happen (let's hope), but it has happened to plenty of other Ips.
But there is saying in video games that, sooner or later, no matter how good you are, a franchise or a developer will die...might not be literally but in quality.
Case in point, Bioware. Once the greatest developer around, now......
 
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