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[Lord Blackblood]

What is gray market sites? Really don't know.

sites like -

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https://www.kinguin.net

etc
there is like hundreds of them.
even e-bay is considered grey market for keys.
all those keys that disappear in seconds on giveaways - that's where the bots sell them usually.

 

[Paulo F.]

Giveaway time! This time the raffle will be for Gray Dawn. Same rules, PM me if you're interested, and I'll choose the winner in about 1 day.

1. luuccas​

2. slurredprey87​

3. Nirjor​

4. gusitoguay​

5. Vulcan​

6. tryyear​

7. Jer7cho​

8. Ortega10​

9. Lewitas​

10. Legolas​

11. eox1​

12. Ⓢ+ε✌ε​

13. chaosttc​

14. ココ奈⁉ (co2no)​

15. PurpleGreenTremors​

16. schmittchen​

Giveaway time! This time the raffle will be for Gray Dawn. Same rules, PM me if you're interested, and I'll choose the winner in about 1 day.

1. luuccas​

2. slurredprey87​

3. Nirjor​

4. gusitoguay​

5. Vulcan​

6. tryyear​

7. Jer7cho​

8. Ortega10​

9. Lewitas​

10. Legolas​

11. eox1​

12. Ⓢ+ε✌ε​

13. chaosttc​

14. ココ奈⁉ (co2no)​

15. PurpleGreenTremors​

16. schmittchen​

I would like to enter please thanks. have a good day.

 

[FreaKill]

What is gray market sites? Really don't know.

There are official retailers that source their keys from publishers and developers (like Indiegala, Fanatical, GreenManGaming etc.) and there are "grey" sites through which anyone can sell their extra keys (G2A, Kinguin, Plati(dot)ru and numerous others).
The original concept is you might get a key for a game you don't want or already have with a purchase of graphics card or something like that and such platforms allowed you to make a little bit of money instead from it. Then the bundles appeared and suddenly loads of people were buying them up to resell the keys.

Which is all fine and dandy but then we get to scammers. There have been cases where people would buy thousands of keys from a developer with stolen credit cards, immediately sell them for super cheap and once the fraud was found out, the developer would lose money and on top of that get hit with chargeback fees, while the scammers got away with a hefty bit of cash. Some devs have publicly talked about being nearly ruined because of such scams.

For example, a couple of years ago after some devs went as far as saying that they prefer their games pirated rather then people guy them on G2A, G2A tried pushing back and went as far as offering to pay a cooperating dev 10 times the price of any key that an audit would show was fraudulent. Surprisingly one dev (Wube Software, creators of Factorio) took them up on their offer and unsurprisingly G2A ended up paying them almost $40000. Because of course nobody would sell $2 keys for a game that cost $20 in early access, $30 after full release and never had a discount or was in a bundle. Nobody except for fraudsters that is.
After that G2A proudly proclaimed how great they were and how well their system worked, neatly forgetting that they only offered such a ridiculous sum, because they stated that there were almost no fraudulent keys being sold on their platform.

In the end gray market can work fine , but it's guaranteed to be at least a little bit shady and there's a risk that your key will get revoked later.
Personally, I bought a couple of cheap games from such sites, one because it's not sold anymore after the dev or publisher (maybe both?) went out of business, and the other is not sold in my country and trying to buy it from indiegala for credits never seemed to work.
Well, technically more than a couple, I guess, because I grabbed a bunch of games from Kinguin, when they had their Crazy free weekends event a couple of years ago.

 

[Zoliv]

all those keys that disappear in seconds on giveaways - that's where the bots sell them usually.

If you mean the keys in forums in the open, impossible, if they get it in a matter of seconds it's by redeeming them, they can't hold on to them and wait for a customer, or anyone would snatch them in the meantime.

 

[syleox]

If you mean the keys in forums in the open, impossible, if they get it in a matter of seconds it's by redeeming them, they can't hold on to them and wait for a customer, or anyone would snatch them in the meantime.

steelseries, intel, alienware....keys linked to (multi)accounts

 

[Lord Blackblood]

steelseries, intel, alienware....keys linked to (multi)accounts

That's what I meant, exactly.
After giveaways with decent games, you can see those games being sold on grey market sites for a few bucks.
For example - after Dead by Daylight GA on AWA, you could find those keys on e-bay for 1$ or maybe more.

 

[syleox]

i expect/wish that some day there will be some studies about mafia work upon game market

 

[A guy (what did you expect?)]

Wow, activated as "Company of Heroes 2 - Retail - [Digital] (WW)"

Well, there is a choice of either WW or Russian.

 

[A guy (what did you expect?)]

Anybody want the itch.io code of Witchcraft: The Lotus Elixir?

 

[A guy (what did you expect?)]

I don't how are the rules in other countries in Europe , but in Croatia if you had an option to download a car for free , people would probably do it

Okkkkkkkkkk....... took me hours to find this post but I have done it!

we all have been like this, right? (credits to @SMG4) : PiratedGames (reddit.com)

 

[valike13]

Your link has REF code. That bundle costs 3,47 $ in the "gray market". Each game individually sometimes costs a few cents.

Yes, i put there my reference code.

And never below 75%. I think it will be good idea to set bigger discount for more people to taste previous games before next installment, but no.

Maybe it is not best deal, but spending some IG credits makes it theoretically free.

 

[tryyear]

Yes, i put there my reference code.

Maybe it is not best deal, but spending some IG credits makes it theoretically free.

pretty sure if someone can gain at least 0.20 gala credits a day(highly doubt that) he can get that much in 50 days.

 

[Nirjor]

pretty sure if someone can gain at least 0.20 gala credits a day(highly doubt that) he can get that much in 50 days.

how much galacredit have you gained from playing the challenges

4.17$ my goal is to reach 9.99$ in 2 months.

forums.indiegala.com

Since this user won 0.23 per day. So logically possible. Just tedious as hell.

 

[tryyear]

how much galacredit have you gained from playing the challenges

4.17$ my goal is to reach 9.99$ in 2 months.

forums.indiegala.com

Since this user won 0.23 per day. So logically possible. Just tedious as hell.

i meant continuously earning 0.20 each day.you know because you dont know when the gameplay giveaway will suddenly take a short break

 

[Nirjor]

Yeah, but we get 240 galacredits per day. So we only need to be able to able to play 24 minute per day without any issue which doesn't seem that difficult. With few 0.02 to 0.04 every few days, it seems possible to get 0.20 per day.

 

[tryyear]

Yeah, but we get 240 galacredits per day. So we only need to be able to able to play 24 minute per day without any issue which doesn't seem that difficult. With few 0.02 to 0.04 every few days, it seems possible to get 0.20 per day.

its hard to explain on a good day you can get 0.20 credits or more a day, on a bad day maybe even less than 0.10 a day

 

[A guy (what did you expect?)]

Yeah, but we get 240 galacredits per day. So we only need to be able to able to play 24 minute per day without any issue which doesn't seem that difficult. With few 0.02 to 0.04 every few days, it seems possible to get 0.20 per day.

Yeah, but once I won 0.05 galacredit in 1 challenge! so it's possible for a guy to get 1.20 galacredit per day!

 

[Vinka Zec]

Just a quick giveaway, games from your wishlists... (I'm at work at the moment I can't type much):

LuckyStrike1305/Louis Wu get "Commandos: Beyond The Call Of Duty".

Marky Marshmallow gets "Learn Japanese To Survive! Hiragana Battle" +Study Guide. (so that you can communicate with your Japanese lady )

Captain Obvious (aka Kid Kidding ^<- this is for PradoV.) gets "Victoria II". (I'm never going to play that one so you can have it !)

BreakAway gets "Dark Fear". (Peace says that you were looking for this one... If you already have it, feel free to gift it to someone else. )

Kristina Popov gets "The Old City: Leviathan". (Slow & relaxing, from your wishlist .)

Enjoy your new games!

P.S. I also have Deponia and Miner Wars 2081 up for grabs. Ask if you want it.

 

[tryyear]

Yeah, but once I won 0.05 galacredit in 1 challenge! so it's possible for a guy to get 1.20 galacredit per day!

wait are you sure,never heard anybody gets more than 0.04 a challenge

 

[PurpleGreenTremors]

Yeah, but we get 240 galacredits per day. So we only need to be able to able to play 24 minute per day without any issue which doesn't seem that difficult. With few 0.02 to 0.04 every few days, it seems possible to get 0.20 per day.

Recently, there seems to be a fairly high chance to get nothing, even if you were close to winning. So 0.20 per day is not easy (needs good luck).