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WhatNitrous

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5 Fragments given via Calendar(y), Use it to upgrade your Artifacts or you can wait to see if they give more next month so that you upgrade the Twitch Artifact. You should be able to Upgrade Chai Stones - Processed to the next level The Stone of Cromcote now if you prefer.
10 fragments to Upgrade with Perk being 4 additional ARP for each daily calendar claim.(y)
I have a headache, thanks legolas :LOL:
 

WhatNitrous

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more important things to talk about. :D
No there ain't :LOL:

We're talking about barney on the drums over here :ROFLMAO:
A. O. A. Academy and Being a DIK didn't have the same dev, for starters.
Obviously not openly admitted...who would.
Acting Lessons
Actually own this as well as Being a Dik.
greediness being one of them, disrespectfulness for his fans and first
No doubt there lol.
his coding skills are impeccable - there are no bugs in his games
My Acting Lesson saves were wiped entirely, no bugs my ass.
anti-piracy
I noticed this, the fact I noticed it just trying to load it without steam (which it prevented) tells me it not all that grand of a trick though. I would have to assume anyone more familiar with the ren'py formatting would likely be able to get around it pretty simply. I'm obviously not that person, but if the format seemed odd to me in the loading files, I have to assume someone would be able to break it without much hassle.
A. O. A. didn't have exactly good coding
We all gotta learn somewhere ;)

That was actually my assumption here, I can't say that invested in the smut world to argue with you...but it seemed a little off to me. You wouldn't copy a more respected devs work (Maya as you said) for some shitty no name project which you then abandoned....something smells fishy here, you have to admit that. Even on F95 they state comments about Being A Dik will be removed lol.

The only person who could have made something so similar in that crowd without being noticed almost immediately would have had to have done it first or been the same dev 🤷‍♂️

And if not the same dev, you figure HE would have got noticed when he made maya in the first place and ppl would have said it was a bad idea from go.

Correct me if this doesn't make sense by all means...but wouldn't you think?
 

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oh my that EULA 🧐 🔍📝
:ROFLMAO: the 🧐 is a nice touch.
Personally I have never installed via SteamDB.
Used what FDubRattleSnake proposed:
Go to a Steam store page and type the following into your browser's address bar:
javascript:AddFreeLicense(717430)
(I go to a steam page, duplicate it, press F12 and then copy the javascript command in the console.)
 

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gonna sent this at our pv so i wont lost, hope that i turn into a genius programming too XD, i have some easy and hard time to understand things, like i can understands lots of things easier, but i forgot them easy if do not train them, and also sometimes i can't understand something if don't get all questions " out of the board" be it a dumb question like a 3 years old would ask...( those who work with or learn mathematics may understand me in this way as something really "dumb" can fuck your equation answer)
you already sound like a programmer, a foreign one, but a programmer :LOL:

We all forget if we don't train our memories, I've been programming longer than you've been alive...and going back to it after a few rough years where I practically ignored it because of more pressing matters was pretty bad I gotta admit

Although I was able to accomplish the task at hand, I found myself digging through the help to remember certain specific things that made me wanna slap myself more often than not...but they came back in a heartbeat after a quick glance without much trouble...20+ yrs is a long time, not easy to forget for long :LOL:

On a side note, this is one reason why its called a Sub-"Routine", its repeats a certain block of code without the need of typing it all over again.

Mind you thats a very bare-bones definition thats more human than actual technical terminology.

A Function is 'generally' the same as a Sub (or SubRoutine), except that it returns a value to another part of your code so it can carry on knowing the information that Function found or if it has failed or succeeded.

You could also do this by passing a variable by reference as a pointer, which is usually done in Functions as well as having them return success or failure as a return value (more often than not)...but that getting ahead of the basics by quite a bit, encapsulation, variable scope, etc.

Stick to the first list, its better you learn the vowels before you try to speak :LOL:
 

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Obviously not openly admitted...who would.
As I said, I know a lot about the indie AVN scene. So, why DPC isn't A.O.A. dev? Apart from what I already told you (bad coding, bad writing and so), DPC, as any other smart indie dev, wouldn't do 2 games at the same time. Why? Because it costs you time and money.

Here it is how AVN indie devs work: you open a Patreon account (or SubscribeStar, more and more recently), you release your demo/0.1 or whatever you call your first release, and you plead F95 admins to list your game. You have 0 patrons on Patreon and for getting to at least to 100, which isn't that high btw., you need a GREAT game and patience of at least a month or two. Now, 95% of all devs will never get to 1.000 patrons - and even that number is not that big deal - you'll earn probably around $2.500 and Patreon will take a percentage of that.

Now, A.O.A. dev probably never reached 1.000 patrons or even if he did, he started losing them fairly quickly after the time gap between updates become longer and longer. Just checked the game - he had 5 releases in less than 2 years.

DrPinkCake has 15.000 patrons. Think about it. 15.000 people paying at least 1$ waiting for a new BaDIk release. No, definitely he wouldn't bother starting the new game under the new name from the zero (literally).

My Acting Lesson saves were wiped entirely, no bugs my ass.
It was his first game, although I never had any issues but I didn't play it for almost 4 or 5 years.

I noticed this, the fact I noticed it just trying to load it without steam (which it prevented) tells me it not all that grand of a trick though. I would have to assume anyone more familiar with the ren'py formatting would likely be able to get around it pretty simply. I'm obviously not that person, but if the format seemed odd to me in the loading files, I have to assume someone would be able to break it without much hassle.
Yeah, it isn't that big deal for anyone with some knowledge of Ren'Py or Python but an average player doesn't have that knowledge.

That was actually my assumption here, I can't say that invested in the smut world to argue with you...but it seemed a little off to me. You wouldn't copy a more respected devs work (Maya as you said) for some shitty no name project which you then abandoned....something smells fishy here, you have to admit that. Even on F95 they state comments about Being A Dik will be removed lol.
Yes, you would copy settings, girls and the story from a highly successful game if you are the new dev and you want easy money - hence why there is a warning "not to mention BaDIK in that thread"... and in many other college-based games - because players tend to compare EVERY such game with BaDIK. You can check the College Kings thread and you'll see the same thing.

And abandonment... Well, that is the destiny of probably more than half of all indie AVNs. Some devs just "burn" - you can recognize such devs from the start - they'll release new updates with lots of content almost every few weeks, then monthly, every three months... And they'll burn in less than a year. Or learn how to slow down.

There are deaths. I knew two great guys who died. One of them had a team and his team continued after his death, even dedicating the game to his memory.

Then you have "quick rich" guys - one punk said he'll abandon his game if he doesn't reach 500 patrons by 0.4 release. Remember how I mention it's hard to get patrons? His game was good both visually and story-wise but you can't get those numbers in just 8 months with your first game! He did that and then, later, he started another game but everyone flooded it with negative reviews because of what he did.

I don't know when TLGGAMES abandoned his game but if he did it recently and he closed his Patreon, he did the most honourable thing possible.

See... Patrons are paying those devs every month to continue their work. They can give up on game development any time they want and any person who knows how that indie AVN scene works wouldn't say a word. He closed his Patreon and nobody will pay him for doing nothing... unlike what happened with "milkers".

I remember two notable cases. One of them is the guy that was a bigger name than DPC now - in fact, DPC was just working on his first game when that guy was over 10.000 patrons (even over 20.000 later on). Never liked his games but he was popular. And then he started slowing down. Now, for us who weren't fans, it was obvious it was just a matter of time before he'll abandon his game dev career. He released just 2 updates in a year and then 1 in 18 months... And nothing for the next 12 months. All the while, his Patreon was working. He was milking monthly over 20.000 people until he finally closed the account. Now - that's a scammer! He had 3 or 4 games completed before the last one but he will always be remembered for milking people's money for over 3 years doing absolutely nothing.

Or another scammer who released 4 updates, with mostly positive reviews, and then went on hiatus for the next 2 or 3 years, milking $500 -$600, and then he returned like nothing happened - except people recognized him for what he is.

So, no, DPC doesn't have anything to do with A.O.A. and you'll be still seeing that "no talk about BaDIK" on every thread with the game similar to BaDIK. And DPC will stay a professional, solid programmer and writer, albeit a greedy and disrespectful piece of shit.
 

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Want to thank silent_passenger for the Wolfenstein 3D from my über-secret wishlist 😳
On barter? :LOL:
Yeah, more or less, but I've still managed to add at least one (KurtzPel) and the other one (Elseworld) is a no-no in my region((

Oh, okay))

Dunno...🤷‍♂️ If I've had the same but +more how it's not a better option?:unsure:
Otherwise anyway, it was the best game at the time))

Oh, nice one!🤘
Also still hope it's a girl in a suit (I have a thing for girl-drummers, especially for good ones)
You have a thing for anything with a twat :ROFLMAO:
WTF. :oops: This is my photo. Exactly mine. This is my windowsill under repair. I once took a picture of it, posted somewhere, forgot it, but someone found it and is now reselling something with it? LOL.
Maybe you can sue them for some of the profit :LOL:
Had that as a kid. Not exactly the same colour scheme, but the design is the same. To this day, I have at least one version of Tetris on all my devices.
You haven't had my version on any device 😒

And you probably wouldn't want it unless I fixed it up first, it was a whip I made at work between handling customers lol.
I still have one lol. I'll hopefully find it and take a photo. My one's in red ;D
Ya, so somebody can make a sale ad with his next :ROFLMAO:
 

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:ROFLMAO: the 🧐 is a nice touch.
Personally I have never installed via SteamDB.
Used what FDubRattleSnake proposed:
Go to a Steam store page and type the following into your browser's address bar:
javascript:AddFreeLicense(717430)
(I go to a steam page, duplicate it, press F12 and then copy the javascript command in the console.)
Glad you got a giggle 🥰
It pops up in steam as its installing tho. How'd you get around the EULA?
Your method I've done previously too, but omg all the hoops to jump thru to log in now. Meh. Im lazy. I used steamdb.
 

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two games at the same time.
Bad Memories, he is working on two himself. A dev I do respect because they respect their fans and they ain't greedy. Not to mention thats one of the better VNs I've ever come across and one of the few I paid for and donated extra too on top even though I grabbed it from itch for $1 before he was forced to charge for it because he TOLD us to do that himself.

My point being, he has a second extremely fucked VN (Weird shit is going to happen!) that he uses to test code for BM...and faithfully updates both although i'm sure his paid project takes priority.

It shoots your theory to pieces and makes mine sound even more right.
Because it costs you time and money.
Costs you nothing, patrons donate a fortune to your ass while they sit at home in their spare time throwing HS Studio, kotaitsu party, and ren'py in a smashed ball, lets be real...its probably the easiest money in the world after (and IF) you pay for the illusion games.

Don't get me wrong, it takes talent to make a really good VN, and I won't even try to take that from either of PinkCakes VNs, they were both incredible, I refuse to support them anymore for them Being A Dik, so Being A DIK season one will be the last of their work I ever see.

I'll have to continue this later...
 

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Bad Memories, he is working on two himself. A dev I do respect because they respect their fans and they ain't greedy. Not to mention thats one of the better VNs I've ever come across and one of the few I paid for and donated extra too on top even though I grabbed it from itch for $1 before he was forced to charge for it because he TOLD us to do that himself.

My point being, he has a second extremely fucked VN (Weird shit is going to happen!) that he uses to test code for BM...and faithfully updates both although i'm sure his paid project takes priority.

It shoots your theory to pieces and makes mine sound even more right.
Yes, I also supported that dev you mentioned. And they had a few more games. Now, two things: all their games are under their name, no double accounts and they're only really working on BM while WSIGTH has maybe 2 updates, with shorties (15-20 minutes) games like Nya or something.

Why would DPC open the second Patreon acc when he would start from ZERO?! He has 15K patrons. If he can release new updates faster, and being famous in the AVN world, he'll get new patrons even faster. He'll get 1.000 new patrons in a few months.

BUT if he created a new acc, he will get 100 patrons in a few months, maybe 500 in a year - all the while wasting his time when he could use that time to grow thousands of new patrons on his account. That doesn't make any sense! What? He would open new acc, and gather new patrons so that he could get $800 a month, while he was earning $30K on his main account? Not to mention, his games are listed on Steam and GOG.

That is absolutely illogical!

But I'll also give you a clear description of why those two games are not from the same person. I mentioned a bad decision system in A.O.A. - that's important because it's the reason why I gave up on that game after 2 or 3 updates and it's something that most games (and especially DPC's games) don't do.

So - two scenes. BaDIK - your MC (Main character) has a clear choice. He can go on a picnic with one girl or he can stay and help another girl who is ill. Pretty much straightforward and something MOST visual novels would do.

A.O.A.. - The girl asked you to go with her later that day somewhere. You can accept or not. There is no logical reason for you to refuse, right? Well, here it is - A.O.A.'s terrible choice implementation! You accepted and, later on, you'll meet another girl that will ask you to meet with her... and you'll auto-refuse BECAUSE you accepted something before without knowing that someone else will ask you the same. And that same stupid thing dev is doing throughout the whole game!

That ruined the game for me. You can only play it with a walkthrough because it doesn't have clear choices and, instead, expects you to be a clairvoyant or something.

Costs you nothing, patrons donate a fortune to your ass while they sit at home in their spare time throwing HS Studio, kotaitsu party, and ren'py in a smashed ball, lets be real...its probably the easiest money in the world after (and IF) you pay for the illusion games.

Don't get me wrong, it takes talent to make a really good VN, and I won't even try to take that from either of PinkCakes VNs, they were both incredible, I refuse to support them anymore for them Being A Dik, so Being A DIK season one will be the last of their work I ever see.

I'll have to continue this later...
Well, DPC and most devs are using Daz 3D or Blender and rendering takes time. Even Illusions HS and Koikatsu take time, slightly less but still.
Although, I don't like Koikatsu because it looks like a really, really bad anime. Koikatsu Party looks better and more professional so maybe I'll change my mind.

And why would you pay DPC for his game? Just visit the site we talked about and get all the seasons. It's the least thing we can do to piss off DPC. :D
 
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you already sound like a programmer, a foreign one, but a programmer :LOL:

We all forget if we don't train our memories, I've been programming longer than you've been alive...and going back to it after a few rough years where I practically ignored it because of more pressing matters was pretty bad I gotta admit

Although I was able to accomplish the task at hand, I found myself digging through the help to remember certain specific things that made me wanna slap myself more often than not...but they came back in a heartbeat after a quick glance without much trouble...20+ yrs is a long time, not easy to forget for long :LOL:

On a side note, this is one reason why its called a Sub-"Routine", its repeats a certain block of code without the need of typing it all over again.

Mind you thats a very bare-bones definition thats more human than actual technical terminology.

A Function is 'generally' the same as a Sub (or SubRoutine), except that it returns a value to another part of your code so it can carry on knowing the information that Function found or if it has failed or succeeded.

You could also do this by passing a variable by reference as a pointer, which is usually done in Functions as well as having them return success or failure as a return value (more often than not)...but that getting ahead of the basics by quite a bit, encapsulation, variable scope, etc.

Stick to the first list, its better you learn the vowels before you try to speak :LOL:
👀
If
Then
🤣
 

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(Did my own homework today, nitrous, you proud of me? 🤣
Extremely, especially since I'm having trouble with my own :LOL:

I somehow screwed up a simple counter in my program, thats almost utterly irrelevant but its pissing me off...so of course I NEED to fix it, as ridiculous and pointless as it is :ROFLMAO:

EDIT: Found my little glitch lol.

On the note of what homework, AWA seems to need its own forum now, thing is like a terrifyingly bad RPG game with fucked up plot twists where your characters leave with all your best Armor forcing you to hit reset after an hour of story has passed lmfao.

Speaking of homework I lost my debate with ivo about VNs somehow lol...guess I'll get back to it when i reach my own quote.
 
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yes, file sharing services have already been invented. everything works very interestingly there, but the essence is this - you put the file there and it is lying around on the Internet, and whoever has the link can download it.

First funny ass mockery aside, where do you find the saves on that site? I went there trying to download them (from a specific game page) and had no luck on the page. I'm obviously missing something stupid, care to point it out and mock me next?

I'm sadly serious :LOL:
 

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Why would DPC open the second Patreon acc when he would start from ZERO?! He has 15K patrons. If he can release new updates faster, and being famous in the AVN world, he'll get new patrons even faster. He'll get 1.000 new patrons in a few months
Nobody wants people seeing the test runs...but you still need testers 🤷‍♂️

I'm not saying i'm right about him, but I'm saying its a sensible reason. won't have that many patreons for long if your releasing bombing test runs to them lol.
You accepted and, later on, you'll meet another girl that will ask you to meet with her... and you'll auto-refuse BECAUSE you accepted something before
This actually happens alot, I thought you were into the AVN scene, maybe just the paid ones?
That ruined the game for me. You can only play it with a walkthrough because it doesn't have clear choices and, instead, expects you to be a clairvoyant or something.
He sells a walkthrough for a reason :LOL:

The last chapter in season 1 being a good part of it.
And why would you pay DPC for his game? Just visit the site we talked about and get all the seasons. It's the least thing we can do to piss off DPC. :D
You mean the zone I assume, its up there? Clean?
 
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