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Rudokhvist

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Proof for what? 0_0 That it's not difficult to press 1 button? "click to check if you won"?.. Or that an email wouldn't help? 0_0
Well, for this for example:
First of all, MANY ga places don't inform you with an email..
Show at least one ga place with giveaways made by users that does not inform users that they have won. Raffle sites don't counts, that's another type of services altogether. Last time I remember you said there is a lot of bots like mine, and when I asked for proof (perfectly knowing that there are none) - you (surprise!) refused. I guess it will be the same this time.
And, while you're at it, tell me, how to check for won giveaways with one click. Even if you have a needed page open and never turn off your PC - you'll need at least two (not even counting that you need to switch to said open tab!). And I mind you that you need to check all the time, even if you don't win - because you to find out that you won - you need to check first. Lets compare two sites in the same situation - you win once per month. On Steamgifts - you only need to open page with your wins once, after you got an email notification. On Indiegala - you need to check fucking profile every day, navigate to the list of games to check, and actually check it. Even if there is no games to check today - you won't know it until you check. So it's like 5 clicks vs 150 clicks for the same result. Brilliant design, no doubt.
 

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It's so difficult to understand what this means? xD

You can try and turn it into sg and see how well this goes.. Same shit but with a bow is the bottom line.
And sending an email to the winner would somehow magicaly fix this?.. lol

Not really. The design is fine. But it does need more support and equal hunting of cheaters as in sg

Trades confuse me here (the site system, not the forum part) so I don't have any strong opinions but what I can tell you is thatthere is no "fair" trading place as people rarely value things the exact same way or live the same circumstances
And everywhere it has sharks.. In all trading places


Imo your entire response is out of bitterness of how things are but then again.. Sending an email to the winner wouldn't help at all.. Nor it would excuse them from failing to check back

Proof for what? 0_0 That it's not difficult to press 1 button? "click to check if you won"?.. Or that an email wouldn't help? 0_0
You have not verified what you are suggesting, you have not used things what you are trying to discuss, you have not seen what you are referring to. These are empty words about nothing. therefore, I see no point in continuing this, there is no interest in reading the walls of text inventing directly in the process of writing.
If you're really interested in seeing the site's problems, if you somehow want to help the site you've been miraculously taken to help at least at it's discord moderation part, let me show you those problems in action, just make one trade offer, having done it according to all the rules and honestly filling in all the lines, and link it here. If there is no such desire, you don’t have to answer. It's better not to answer.
 
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LuckyStrike1305

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does not inform users that they have won
"blah blah VIA EMAIL"
Raffle sites don't counts, that's another type of services altogether.
But it IS a raffle.. It just has no tasks


And, while you're at it, tell me, how to check for won giveaways with one click. Even if you have a needed page open and never turn off your PC - you'll need at least two (not even counting that you need to switch to said open tab!).
Since 2 can play the "who is the bigger idiot game".. Press F5 on the tab and click "check all ga's" :)))))))))))))))))) ffs.. you gotta be kidding me that THIS was the problem
On Steamgifts
IG isn't steamgifts. It's NOT a ga site.. It's a store that has ga's. BIG DIFFERENCE

So it's like 5 clicks vs 150 clicks for the same result. Brilliant design, no doubt.
You are overly dramatic but yes better design could work. This doesn't mean it takes a rocket scientist to figure this out OR that an email would make a difference whatsoever
You have not verified what you are suggesting
What did I suggest?
let me show you those problems in action
A better design could work obviously.. Adding an email notification is useless but I can shove it in a list to show them.. If you ask me, better focus on what REALLY needs changing.. And that isn't an email notification.. So tell me with what you are having problems with. Apart from cheaters
just make one trade offer, having done it according to all the rules and honestly filling in all the lines, and link it here. If there is no such desire, you don’t have to answer. It's better not to answer.
When I get home. But for trades, I honestly have never used it. I find it confusing
 

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If you ask me, better focus on what REALLY needs changing.. And that isn't an email notification.. So tell me with what you are having problems with. Apart from cheaters
this is a conversation!

Аutomatic posting of positive reviews is the first problem. there is no active moderation, there are no user checks. so you take a link in Steam for an asset flip with a sky-high price, make several dozen draws and just wait. More than half will end automatically, no one will check them and you will automatically get a bunch of points and even level up several times.

The second problem is that (not very clearly) but on the site keys that are not for Steam are NOT allowed. When creating giveaways, it is written specifically that you need a Steam link and a key for Steam, but this is not formally written in the rules. And people abuse it en masse. Right here on the forum there are a bunch of idiots who receive negative feedback and then go around writing nasty things in private messages, repeating as a mantra "in the description I indicated that this is a key for GOG / some crap for mobile games from lootboy". So, on the one hand, you can't do that, and on the other hand, everyone doesn't care about it. It shouldn't be like that. If no one has any business for this and admins do not want to moderate the section, then it is necessary to at least make it allowed? I see it very simply - to allow when creating a giveaway to select a store icon - and for it to be visible on the raffle card on the main page, without the need to open it separately. This would not only solve the problem, it would give the site a bit of an advantage, especially if combined with live active moderation of the section.

Moderation, again, is also a problem. everyone knows perfectly well how slow it is and how inefficient it is. Plus reports don't work, bans basically don't work either, we've all seen people with a banned mark more than once create or win something.

In addition to specially created wrong giveaways, this can also be done by accident. And how can it be fixed later? No way, you can't delete it. You can contact the administration, but let's be honest, you have to wait a few days for an answer there, and this is even in matters of problems with purchases in the store, what to say about the request to remove the raffle?

Something must be done about it. As for me, for last two points I see the option of to make a separate branch in discord for specially trained people who would respond to these questions, bypassing questions that can only be solved by the administration. (Yep, they have to be extra tough about "i won a key in the challenge but it doesn't work" issues.)

Something else i forgot that was bad about the giveaways. Eh :/

What is needed with trades is better to see.

If the site needs these sections, if they attract an audience, they need to stop turning a blind eye to them, and if not, then unfortunately they are already turning into garbage :/

And again, the rules: something is not written there, something is outdated. They need to be reviewed.
 
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WhatNitrous

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Trades confuse me here (the site system, not the forum part) so I don't have any strong opinions but what I can tell you is thatthere is no "fair" trading place as people rarely value things the exact same way or live the same circumstances
From what I've gathered, just 'reading' what others wrote, in the trade section if you send a key first...it is revealed before the trade is even complete.

If I understand what I've gathered about the trade section correctly without using it--in that case its entirely true.
hunting of cheaters as in sg
no lol
more support
yes lol
Proof for what? 0_0 That it's not difficult to press 1 button? "click to check if you won"?.. Or that an email wouldn't help? 0_0
Ahh, theres the troll fallback.
It's so difficult to understand what this means? xD
I've never read the rules flat out, which alone says that if you actually participate and care if you won...common sense should prevail, granted you have a functioning frontal lobe :LOL:

If you don't care, why would you waste the time to enter so many and allow cheating at all.
 

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Your actually ignored normally but I caught your reaction.

I'll give you an answer...and I'll stand by it too.

Jericho and forsaken telling me to 'get out' will accomplish it ;)

I'll leave and never come back.

Easy right?
I'd like to thank our resident Rabbit for hunting the forums to find something I was missing and give me a christmas gift, even after christmas 🐇

I guess your stuck with me 🤷‍♂️ :p
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Appreciate it chica, and the timing was perfect lol.
 
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