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You don't want to hear the main point I wrote in that message. You think you saw the 80s, but you forgot to take into account the fact that there were other people on the planet at that time. It's as simple as that - yes, I remember the 80s.
No, you're right. That's exactly what I told another person who lived through the 80s. I explained to him that what he described was typical for people who lived in the USA at that time, but in Europe, things were different - not to mention that we have a fictional country as the story setting. There is nothing there that screams "it's not 1985". Point me to anything that does if you saw it. 🤷‍♂️
 

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Got a ttf file russian font suggestion? that matches dejavu sans or roboto? English fonts dont produce those characters I tried.
Both fonts have Cyrillic characters :unsure: Maybe you have some kind of cropped version, so I will attach the original archives of the international versions.
 

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Your forgetting the 80s were different in different locations as well...europe is in a time warp compared to the US, and has a totally different sense of style as well...i'm sure the same could be said for Ukraine and Russia 🤷‍♂️
Of course, that's true. But if you want to know what the difference was, there's a simple formula: the eighties in the US are the nineties in the countries of the former socialist camp. And they took not 10, but 5 years. Then came the American 90s, which in another 5 years caught up with the real flow of time.
 

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The 80s baby dilemma aside...

I got an offer for you all.

Anyone from gala who reviews the game on itch (vic your already set on this--if i'm not mistaken you brought your review here and deleted it from itch), and joins Patreon or Boosty as free members while its in the demo phase will get a free steam key (from me personally) when we put it up as early access, even if I have to buy them and hand them out because of steam rules during the early access period.

Just make sure I know who you are...and I promise you'll get a free key when that day comes even if we can't technically give away keys yet...i'll also add you to the games thank you list so I remember who I owe keys too--normally a benefit for a paid subscription on those sites.

You do worse tasks for worse games 🤷‍♂️

We could use some numbers.
 

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Both fonts have Cyrillic characters :unsure: Maybe you have some kind of cropped version, so I will attach the original archives of the international versions.
No I have a selected version where I included the ones I chose to include and set the italic bold etc formats myself...i'll check now and if not grab them from your links. It may be ren'py itself though.
 

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Of course, that's true. But if you want to know what the difference was, there's a simple formula: the eighties in the US are the nineties in the countries of the former socialist camp. And they took not 10, but 5 years. Then came the American 90s, which in another 5 years caught up with the real flow of time.
Nope. Again - different countries, different 80s. I lived in a socialist country - former Yugoslavia - and it has the best from both blocks. So...
 

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Both fonts have Cyrillic characters :unsure: Maybe you have some kind of cropped version, so I will attach the original archives of the international versions.
That look right to you?

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Aside from being way too big :LOL:

Seems your were right, I was using the gothic font not the standard fonts.
 
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Point me to anything that does if you saw it. 🤷‍♂️
So you mean you don't know what the 80s are, but you're pretty sure you're right. Well, that's ironclad logic, I'm pretty sure that in your 80s people wore exactly these clothes, had exactly this make-up and led exactly this life. Okay. I don't see any point in continuing.
Aw, no, I will. One more time.
Want a funny experiment? Take a screenshot, show it to anyone, and ask them to determine the time when the events occur. Good luck! ;)

But the reality is a little different. And one joke about VHS, which at that time was at the peak of its form, in fact, and which still had another more or less 15 years to live a happy life, not Betamax, not LaserDisc, which at the time of 1985 had not yet lost the format war and were relevant, does not change anything. Perhaps, if such artifacts of the era were mentioned at least more often in dialogues, it would somehow put player in the right mood, i think.
 
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So you mean you don't know what the 80s are, but you're pretty sure you're right. Well, that's ironclad logic, I'm pretty sure that in your 80s people wore exactly these clothes, had exactly this make-up and led exactly this life. Okay. I don't see any point in continuing.
Aw, no, I will. One more time.
Want a funny experiment? Take a screenshot, show it to anyone, and ask them to determine the time when the events occur. Good luck! ;)

But the reality is a little different. And one joke about VHS, which at that time was at the peak of its form, in fact, and which still had another more or less 15 years to live a happy life, not Betamax, not LaserDisc, which at the time of 1985 had not yet lost the format war and were relevant, does not change anything. Perhaps, if such artifacts of the era were remembered at least more often in dialogues, it would somehow put player in the right mood, i think.
Can I go back to 1985 now before the internet? 😅
 

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I lived in a socialist country - former Yugoslavia - and it has the best from both blocks. So...
But you then must remember that everything was much better there than in the ussr itself, proximity to the civilized world did its job.
That look right to you?

View attachment 21492

Aside from being way too big :LOL:

Seems your were right, I was using the gothic font not the standard fonts.
At least now everything looks right.
 

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Ok, let me be clear since ivo hasnt yet...to try and restore sanity to some degree...the assets are pre-made, not put into scenes or even combinations, thats something he does--but there are a limited number to work with and honestly creating them would be beyond even my skills as just a programmer and not an artist working with multiple other 3D softwares.

Theres really only so much he can do as for setting the time frame, all the other arguments aside.
 

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So you mean you don't know what the 80s are, but you're pretty sure you're right. Well, that's ironclad logic, I'm pretty sure that in your 80s people wore exactly these clothes, had exactly this make-up and led exactly this life. Okay. I don't see any point in continuing.
No. I mean I know that my 80s didn't differentiate from most countries in the Europe of that time. Yeah, among other things, they wore those clothes as well as other clothes, they had that hairstyle and there were those with uglier hairstyles. I'm sorry to disappoint you, but the 1980s weren't that different from today. When I said you point out what isn't typical for the 1980s, I meant things like laptops everywhere, mobile phones, internet, big advertisement screens everywhere... In one word - plotholes - and not if the socks were a centimetre shorter or longer than today.
 

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Are you insinuating its still a bad vibe on the title screen?
No! I was a little amused by your words, really. This is such a joke for those who are in the subject. English is really more compact, and when translating it is a common problem that there is not enough space as a result. It is one thing to just text, where you just add pages and that's it, and another thing, for example, rom hacking or translating comics, where space is strictly limited. It was fun to hear it from the other side of the translation :)
 

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No! I was a little amused by your words, really. This is such a joke for those who are in the subject. English is really more compact, and when translating it is a common problem that there is not enough space as a result. It is one thing to just text, where you just add pages and that's it, and another thing, for example, rom hacking or translating comics, where space is strictly limited. It was fun to hear it from the other side of the translation :)
Honestly, I had trouble adding that in myself and its the reason the english shifts over if you hold your finger or hover over it with the mouse on PC...but I felt it was worthwhile to do.

The reason it was 'too big' was actually the font switch, it happened for patreon as well...I had already taken into account the length when I first did it.

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Nobodies perfect, but I try to account for every detail as much as possible.
 

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Ok, let me be clear since ivo hasnt yet...to try and restore sanity to some degree...the assets are pre-made, not put into scenes or even combinations, thats something he does--but there are a limited number to work with and honestly creating them would be beyond even my skills as just a programmer and not an artist working with multiple other 3D softwares.

Theres really only so much he can do as for setting the time frame, all the other arguments aside.
But this is what i'm saying: it just makes more sense to just move the time in which the events take place, it won't change anything in the game, except literally one number at the start. Unless the time in which the events take place has some powerful plot twist tied to it later on, it won't affect anything in any way.
Аnd the screenshot experiment will help to make sure of this. Young people arrive in an unfamiliar place, this is literally the golden age of youth films, whether horrors like The Faculty, or funny situations like American Pie - old good pre-smartphone times.
 

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But this is what i'm saying: it just makes more sense to just move the time in which the events take place, it won't change anything in the game, except literally one number at the start. Unless the time in which the events take place has some powerful plot twist tied to it later on, it won't affect anything in any way.
Аnd the screenshot experiment will help to make sure of this. Young people arrive in an unfamiliar place, this is literally the golden age of youth films, whether horrors like The Faculty, or funny situations like American Pie - old good pre-smartphone times.
Of that...only ivo can say, this is his story, I kind of jumped into the mix offering a hand with the interface and this just ended up happening. I don't know or have privy to the entire story any more than one update ahead myself--and I never ask him to change it beyond suggestion...and I won't ask him to change this either, its his choice.

Next game I may handle some of the plot--this game is his and his alone.

This was our agreement when it started...to avoid a split over arguments, something that happens more often than not.

And you know how I am about my word--besides, its truly his story, I have no right.
 

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But this is what i'm saying: it just makes more sense to just move the time in which the events take place, it won't change anything in the game, except literally one number at the start. Unless the time in which the events take place has some powerful plot twist tied to it later on, it won't affect anything in any way.
Yes, it's important for the story that it's not set in modern times where everyone is connected with everyone else across the globe.
 
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