Facerig Studio for Individual VTubers w/Live2D

Uwain

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oh!
Why don't Indiegala stop this then?
Btw, how do you test keys without actually using them?
 

Uwain

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oh!Why don't Indiegala stop this then?Btw, how do you test keys without actually using them?
I was being somewhat facetious here... there is of course no facility to check a key other than redeeming it... otherwise silly boys would spend all day trying key numbers to find free keys.
 

cheerie132

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I was being somewhat facetious here... there is of course no facility to check a key other than redeeming it... otherwise silly boys would spend all day trying key numbers to find free keys.
if it's a DLC, yes there is a way to check the key without using it. 2 methods here Feudalife challenge BAD/FAULTY/NOT-WORKING/INVALID keys masterpost (error message: this product code was already activated by a different account)

And I guarantee you 100% it's a fake key
 

Uwain

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those links dont work for me... maybe show the URL if they are real??
 

MadLibrarian

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You probably view this topic through the giveaway page. If you watch this topic on the forums the link will show up properly. Maybe this way it will show up on the giveaway page, too: forums.indiegala.com/threads/feudalife-challenge-bad-faulty-not-working-invalid-keys-masterpost-error-message-this-product-code-was-already-activated-by-a-different-account.4354/

Simply put when you try to activate a key it will not get used up if you already own the game or if it's for a DLC you don't have the matching base game for. Open up the browser developer tools with F12 when trying to activate and in Network tab click on the new entry then go to the Response tab and you'll be able to read what the Steam key is for.
 
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Uwain

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Ty for the explanation... I am viewing from the giveaway page.

It all seems like too much work for me... if Indiegala don't care enough to do anything about it I don't see why I should put myself out too much.

I won this key in good faith... I only tried to win it in order to offer it again and gain more points in order to increase my level.

If anybody should be penalised for anything it should be the original creator of the key.

When I create a giveaway I always explain the origins of the key (ie won in giveaway ) in the description. I do wish so...offered. That's life... what can I tell you.
 

MadLibrarian

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You are giving a fake key to your winner. If they know how to check it, you will receive a negative rating. If they don't then you might get a positive rating and tons of experience for a big fat nothing. That's level cheating. Sadly the IG team doesn't care about it much. The only way there is a slight chance of the cheaters getting banned is if the winners report the giveaways at support@indiegala.com for being fake. Instead most seem to try to regift them.

I don't know whether the reason is being greedy, gullible, naive or something else. Let's look at the facts: nobody is giving away legit 400 dollar value softwares for free on IG. This software is only sold on Steam and there are no known Steam keys generated for it. Also it takes like two seconds to copy the key into the activation page and press F12. It's telling that you don't consider it worth two seconds of your time to verify the validity of a 400 dollar item.

The correct thing to do is to report the original giveaway and ask the admins to delete yours.

To the winner: please leave a negative rating and report this fake giveaway if the owner is not willing to fix it themselves. Thank you.
 

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It all seems like too much work for me... if Indiegala don't care enough to do anything about it I don't see why I should put myself out too much.
Really? :cautious: A couple of clicks are "too much work"? And if you'd actually read the linked post you'd see that you don't even have to make any extra clicks to check the key - you can install steamdb browser add-on and it will automatically show what you try to activate: https://steamdb.info/extension/

If anybody should be penalised for anything it should be the original creator of the key.
Well, as the winner of that giveaway, you're the only one who can get any sort of penalizing process started, by checking what you won properly and leaving accurate feedback.
 

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So now you are on a public forum advocating installation of random browser add-ons... cos thats safe isn't it! And then you'll be all surprised when you notice your bank account has been emptied!!

For the information of any unsuspecting souls out there that follow this advice... do your own analysis of any browser add-ons - these are a huge security risk and the first thing to look at if your browser starts mis-behaving.
Remember, the original download may look safe, but a later auto-update can change everything.

So yes, safely clicking things (and only have the word of a sketchy forum that this wont use the key) then peeking at the callback details or installing an add-on into a safe workspace in order to analyse/sniff the traffic to get any confidence the thing is not stealing my info before finally installing it on my PC is too much work for a free giveaway.

Dont come back telling me how 'safe' steamdb is - I'm not interested in old wives tales... some people are less averse to risk than others... hell, most of the people reading this probably have an access point with WPS and/or UPnP enabled on their router - I guess a browser add-on would be the least of their worries!

As for the $400 giveaway... if you think any of the legit giveaways here were purchased at RRP or even Steam prices then I think it may be you who are a little naive!
And I don't appreciate the insult - however passive-aggressive it may be.

I do enjoy spirited discussion... but when it begins to slip to the depths of insults I'm out - I assure you, you would not insult me to my face.

As ever... caveat emptor.
 

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If you can't trust the steamdb add-on why don't you just press F12 on the activation page? I'll tell you why. Because then you'd have to face the truth and your self-rationalization built on plausible deniability would fall apart. You know perfectly well that yours is not a legit key but as long as it's not spelled out clearly you can deny it to yourself.

And I'm sure you know about the many deal aggregator sites (both for legit stores and grey market key shops) and also how to use Google. The historical low for this DLC is 317.3 USD. If there was ever a deal for this then it would show up in search. And the keys would also show up in trading sites and moderated giveaway sites like Steamgifts. But they don't because they don't exist. It's a scam used by cheaters to level up their Indiegala accounts. If you perpetuate it then you just become a cheater yourself no matter how convulated rationalizations you come up with.

Also FYI if you don't own the matching base game you can't activate any DLC on Steam. (This info is also easy to Google so you don't have to rely on the words of us sketchy IG forum users.) So unless you own the base Facerig Studio software you can't use up your key if it's legit. Though most likely it's a freely given away FUSER or Pinball FX DLC or something like that so if you own those games your worthless freebie key might actually activate.
 

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As for the $400 giveaway... if you think any of the legit giveaways here were purchased at RRP or even Steam prices then I think it may be you who are a little naive!
you're deliberately missing the point here - the point is NOT if it was purchased at RRP or Steam prices, the point is that it's fake. You say the original creator whom you won the key from should be punished and not you, yet you refuse to do a very simple and very safe check through either Chrome or Mozilla by just pressing F12 (the process is the same for both, just the layout is different) to see for yourself that you won a bogus key and probably left positive feedback on a bogus key and then created a giveaway for a bogus key. And since you're aware that nobody would be giving away 400 USD software at RRP, the least you could have done was check price comparison sites to see that historical low for this DLC was 317 USD and figure out that it's most likely fake.
 

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So now you are on a public forum advocating installation of random browser add-ons... cos thats safe isn't it! And then you'll be all surprised when you notice your bank account has been emptied!!...

And now you're just throwing around completely unfounded allegations.

So yes, safely clicking things (and only have the word of a sketchy forum that this wont use the key) then peeking at the callback details ... is too much work for a free giveaway.
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And I don't appreciate the insult - however passive-aggressive it may be.

I do enjoy spirited discussion... but when it begins to slip to the depths of insults I'm out - I assure you, you would not insult me to my face.

The only one being passive aggressive and slipping into insults in this conversation is you.

But sure, whatever. If you choose to remain willfully ignorant of how steam key activation works, although you seem to be sufficiently tech savvy to be able to confirm that a DLC key doesn't become useless if the person trying to activate it doesn't have the base game, and use that as justification that you're not at all responsible for giving away a fake key, I guess that's your business.
 
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I won this key in good faith... I only tried to win it in order to offer it again and gain more points in order to increase my level.
Entering a raffle which you know is a scam for the express purpose of perpetuating that scam doesn't seem very "good faith" to me.
 

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Entering a raffle which you know is a scam for the express purpose of perpetuating that scam doesn't seem very "good faith" to me.


I think you're being too harsh there. Let me play devil's advocate for a moment (actually I don't think the idiom fits, since I'm not actually arguing against what I believe to be true):

We have no real indication that Uwain knew, that those giveaways were fake. In fact I'd say all signs point to the opposite: people did not comment on the fake giveaways that Uwain won, so it's easy to believe that they didn't know about nonexistence of legit keys for those DLCs and their account is only level 3, despite joining quite a while ago, so it's not like they're trying to deliberately cheat some levels, otherwise they'd do the same thing that the scammers do and get all the levels with a small flood of fake giveaways.

So I don't think they're lying about not knowing, they just don't use this forum and don't consider the whole giveaway thing worthy of that much care to really dig into anything.
 
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WizardStan

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We have no real indication that Uwain knew, that those giveaways were fake
Let me quote exactly what was said:
As for the $400 giveaway... if you think any of the legit giveaways here were purchased at RRP or even Steam prices then I think it may be you who are a little naive!
So by their own reasoning, either they knew that it was a scam or they were just as naive as everyone they're trying to insult. See, I setup a "trap", pointing out that they were self-insulting either way. But they're not coming back, so it doesn't matter.
 

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So by their own reasoning, either they knew that it was a scam or they were just as naive as everyone
I don't see that as admission of anything. In that quote they're trying to argue against the notion that this is an "impossible" 400$ worth freebie, by comparing it to the majority of real giveaways that indeed were not bought at full price, but rather come from various mass giveaways (like Steelseries, Alienware, Humble, Feudalife) and bundle leftovers.
At least that's how I read that. Still not a great attitude in my opinion, but doesn't scream "scam" to me.
 
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