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That's a much more nuanced take on AI than I thought you had. We barely disagree on it then, other than my not caring so much about the things that bother you, and my being slightly more optimistic about its future use.
whatnitrus said:
I dont actually hate it, I hate what people expect of it and worse what they are trying to rush forward into making it do or appear to do for a quick buck.
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Making a quick buck is going to be the first use case for the average random poor person. If you can make money pumping out as much content as it takes until you eventually hit on something that people like, like Savior Pug, then why wouldn't you? In your case you might have some moral or quality standard issue with it, but most people in that situation do not care.

This is not the only use, just the first and most common use. Like any tool
whatnitrus said:
I never rely on it fully and I only go by what I can confirm
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This is important for any research. AI is not magic, and can definitely be wrong. It's a good starting point for research, but everything should be confirmed.
whatnitrus said:
My only dislike for AI is the idea that we may try to create actual thought and still try to get it to be a slave.
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There won't simply be one AI. Various iterations. Most will be unsuccessful. Given enough attempts, I don't see why that can't be achieved. I don't expect anything soon though. It happens when it does. AI has advanced quickly, but hasn't done much recently. There could still be a big jump at some point, but we don't know when that will be.
 
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ausf said:
That's a much more nuanced take on AI than I thought you had. We barely disagree on it then, other than my not caring so much about the things that bother you, and my being slightly more optimistic about its future use.
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Thats because as you said...
ausf said:
Making a quick buck is going to be the first use case for the average random poor person
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So mostly I hear about jackasses doing things they're known to do...problem is the people behond it have less brains than a single cell organism so I have bad vibes about the direction it'll go intentionally or by pure accident.

I consider myself intelligent (at least compared to most people these days lol) and even at a younger age I considered the concept of true AI (not this database garbage), but the thought of building a world with actual life I had no means to ever give true freedom just left a bad taste in my mouth...and the concept of creating freedom in an enclosed cyber dome where even generating a truly random number is a monumental task seems near impossible, so no matter how I looked at the concept, I would create life that was doomed to be trapped without a choice. That idea does bother me...only because actual thought should always come with actual choice...as someone who has felt like I was trapped by circumstance and even that some things couldnt possibly be true or real myself...I know that I would despise it, even paradise would get boring after a long enough time. Its change and interaction that gives life flair, sun followed by rain, winning and losing...without that balance its just a play with us as an actor (really wanted to quote shakespear lmao)

My ideals in life are simply complicsted, if you wouldnt want to be the one it happened too, you shouldnt put someone else in the same situation...I just seem more merciful than most people because i've been through alot more pain than most people for me to see the roles reversed in nearly every situation 🤷‍♂️

I'm also a dark and heartless monster waiting to surface for the same exact reason...it really is the quiet or peaceful ones that arre scary....the ones who take shit and have it all pent up, even more so when they never took shit until they realized how pointless it was to be the one to continue a ridiculous cycle of BS...and thats where i'm at.

I'm against AI because I know that it will go wrong before it goes right...human nature is to take advantage of whatever we can until it refuses to take it anymore...and that just wont end well for us or what we create...doesnt matter which.
 
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whatnitrus said:
My time isnt even short now its downright microscopic :LOL: so every minute is vital.
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Sure, get some sleep. Be at your best.

As for AI, and tech generally, if you remember the earliest instances of CGI in Hollywood movies, it was completely terrible. Compared to that, current AI is pretty good. I expect it to only improve. The same with random AI slop that first came out. There have already been more professional AI creations, where they put a lot more time into it, and the results show. I only expect that to improve, while also seeing plenty of low effort trash trying shamelessly to cash in if it can, much like regular movies and music.
 
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