GAMERS LAIR

[WhatNitrous]

Meh. I think it's bad form. If you're gonna release a game on said date, do it. Word gets round faster from reviews, good or bad. Other than the devs and marketing who looks at wishlists (other than in the Lair)? Surely income is better than stats too. Meh. Meh and meh.

...and smh

You said that ten times better than me in like one sentence

 

[WhatNitrous]

Btw, I managed to grab a copy before the game ran out. It's yours if you want it!

I obviously wouldn't ask for the key, but what game were we even talking about?

I got caught up in the developer end of things..sometimes I wanna beat the tech side of my brain down with a shovel lol.

 

[Chii-chan]

So why? Does it push the game further up some wanted list or something?

Visibility in the store, recommendation, search etc.

He's getting paid to promote these games.

If by people watching his channel to get a copy so he gets ad revenue, yes. He doesn't get paid by the developer. He probably sends out mass emails to beg for keys to use in these drops, and his active viewer count is way bigger than most streamers so it's easy to justify - unless the devs use their brains to see it's a bot farm. I think they do, because all of these drops are garbage games.

I got caught up in the developer end of things..sometimes I wanna beat the tech side of my brain down with a shovel lol.

What are you a developer of? Link your steam game(s)?

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I was going to post that if you use SG, your level may have dropped. They nuked a lot of stuff. They're adding all these asset flips priced 10-25$ to free list, even though they weren't ever free, to stop the leveling abuse. If you ever got one from DIG then it's worthless now. This is a strange time and I wonder what will happen to the site, where do they draw the line between what's garbage and what's not. The other thing is there's a lot of bots on the site, huge entries but many rule breakers because they used these kind of games to be able to register and once they're in they aren't kicked out until caught and banned.

What a contrast to IG's giveaway system. The wild west. Forum banned users can still access, create, and win giveaways here, it's crazy.

 

[WhatNitrous]

Visibility in the store, recommendation, search etc.


If by people watching his channel to get a copy so he gets ad revenue, yes. He doesn't get paid by the developer. He probably sends out mass emails to beg for keys to use in these drops, and his active viewer count is way bigger than most streamers so it's easy to justify - unless the devs use their brains to see it's a bot farm. I think they do, because all of these drops are garbage games.


What are you a developer of? Link your steam game(s)?

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I was going to post that if you use SG, your level may have dropped. They nuked a lot of stuff. They're adding all these asset flips priced 10-25$ to free list, even though they weren't ever free, to stop the leveling abuse. If you ever got one from DIG then it's worthless now. This is a strange time and I wonder what will happen to the site, where do they draw the line between what's garbage and what's not. The other thing is there's a lot of bots on the site, huge entries but many rule breakers because they used these kind of games to be able to register and once they're in they aren't kicked out until caught and banned.

What a contrast to IG's giveaway system. The wild west. Forum banned users can still access, create, and win giveaways here, it's crazy.

A dev...yes, game dev. no.

EDIT:

I had to go look up DIG, theres your short answer

That was what got me into programming, but I always lacked the artistic skills when I was doing it to make games and there were no free assets pretty much everywhere.

If I were to release one of my few older games I did finish, it would be free...likely here lol.

Actually haven't been doing much of it these days since I was mostly using Visual C++ and well...have you seen Windows 11?

My last project got scrapped almost entirely (personal use aside) after a mass amount of work, I'm planning to switch over to linux eventually...but it was based on avoiding Microsofts unrealistic amount of logs while doing its job.

That took the wind right out of my sails lately.

 

[Kid Kidding]

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[syleox]

A dev...yes, game dev. no.

EDIT:

I had to go look up DIG, theres your short answer

That was what got me into programming, but I always lacked the artistic skills when I was doing it to make games and there were no free assets pretty much everywhere.

If I were to release one of my few older games I did finish, it would be free...likely here lol.

Actually haven't been doing much of it these days since I was mostly using Visual C++ and well...have you seen Windows 11?

My last project got scrapped almost entirely (personal use aside) after a mass amount of work, I'm planning to switch over to linux eventually...but it was based on avoiding Microsofts unrealistic amount of logs while doing its job.

That took the wind right out of my sails lately.

have you tried VScodium ?

 

[DbLH3liX]

I doubt Godfather bought those 150 keys. He's getting paid to promote these games.

I've no idea why the dev delayed the release. I'm guessing he found some last-minute bugs and didn't want to release his game in a broken state and have it trashed by negative reviews.

Btw, I managed to grab a copy before the game ran out. It's yours if you want it!

Hrm. Well he did tell me that he bought them.
Well, I hope its bug-fixes and not a marketing/stats/meh ploy.
And sure, if you're not gonna play it, I'd love the key For anyone else interested, HSF guessed the game is gonna release at 9.99usd.

in like one sentence

Which one? Meh and meh? well it is .. just .. meh

 

[DbLH3liX]

Visibility in the store, recommendation, search etc.

Wait, wot? Wishlist numbers increase your chance of visibility? I guess that makes sense - for a released game that everyone's talking about and reviewing, but for an unreleased game? hrrrrmmmmm

(and no, no matter how hard I tried I could not add this post-reply to my previous post .. meh, again)

 

[syleox]

Wait, wot? Wishlist numbers increase your chance of visibility? I guess that makes sense - for a released game that everyone's talking about and reviewing, but for an unreleased game? hrrrrmmmmm

this is called "exposure", it's often diverted into grabbing free stuff in exchange of potential commercial leads...that's the magic of marketing
also shovelware makers loves it cause it cost nothing to give free keys for a fake game (like hentai puzzles...)

it is based on the most basic/stupid (?) commercial/marketing law : "the more you see it, the more you want it"

meh, again)

let this vloger have more exposure

 

[WhatNitrous]

have you tried VScodium ?

Now I have to ask the obvious question...are you a dev? I'd been looking for a replacement for VSCode....and I have never heard of it. I couldn't find that when I was trying

Unfortunately my program was using low-level C (the functions Microsoft doesn't control in VC++) to actually avoid Microsoft logs such as file writes, IO control requests etc...and shut off the logs in Windows so it couldn't be traced by any third parties using those logs.

So the program was entirely based on the Windows OS itself, not which program I was using to write the code...I could have easily compiled it other ways with a little tweaking, but it was designed specifically FOR Windows itself.

If I were to port it to another OS that didn't log your entire life (and then log the logs lmao)...it would have been a much easier program to make, I very well might do that...but I would still need to start from scratch and refresh myself on Linux (and its been quite a long time)--bottom line is I either attempt to finish it for windows which isn't likely...or I take the 'concept' to another OS which I am already considering.

I any case, that was a Godsend of a single statement my friend

 

[WhatNitrous]

Hrm. Well he did tell me that he bought them.
Well, I hope its bug-fixes and not a marketing/stats/meh ploy.
And sure, if you're not gonna play it, I'd love the key For anyone else interested, HSF guessed the game is gonna release at 9.99usd.

Which one? Meh and meh? well it is .. just .. meh

Take your pick.

Wait, wot? Wishlist numbers increase your chance of visibility? I guess that makes sense - for a released game that everyone's talking about and reviewing, but for an unreleased game? hrrrrmmmmm

(and no, no matter how hard I tried I could not add this post-reply to my previous post .. meh, again)

Steam takes the statistics into account as well as curators...who are just gamers with a pretty badge really and get games handed to them for review lol.

Always wanted to figure out how to become one

 

[WhatNitrous]

this is called "exposure", it's often diverted into grabbing free stuff in exchange of potential commercial leads...that's the magic of marketing
also shovelware makers loves it cause it cost nothing to give free keys for a fake game (like hentai puzzles...)

it is based on the most basic/stupid (?) commercial/marketing law : "the more you see it, the more you want it"

let this vloger have more exposure

Not likely.



EDIT: text after image to avoid confusion lol.

For someone promoting their stuff...they suck.

 

[syleox]

Now I have to ask the obvious question...are you a dev?

not a dev, just have some curiosity about dev works...
just learned some basic stuff like variables, classes, pointers, public, private...

 

[TurdSplat]

game name

Flower Shop: Summer In Fairbrook
It was on my Wishlist and some cool viking guy sent it to me

Flower Shop: Summer In Fairbrook on Steam

The Flower Shop is a dating and farming simulation game. Steve's life has just taken a downward turn. His grades from his first semester in college are dismal, his relationship with his girlfriend is rocky at best, and now his dad is shipping him off to some farm for the summer so that he can...

store.steampowered.com

 

[WhatNitrous]

not a dev, just have some curiosity about dev works...
just learned some basic stuff like variables, classes, pointers, public, private...

You realize those basics are practically the hardest part right? Seems like you'd be better off writing low-level code like me...I like to learn how everything REALLY works, at the base.

Its a gift and a curse, since its not even half as simple as writing a program (particularly a game) in low-level code, but almost every language and addition such as the one you just pointed me too, was likely written in C/C++, if not C Sharp.

That obviously doesn't include all the web based ones, although java is also based on C++ syntax.

If you fully learn C (Assembler is pretty much the lowest I can imagine and it requires regular visits to a shrink lol), you could make your own version of the higher level languages yourself if you wanted too.

So i'm that crazy bastard who codes the things most people avoid like the plague, its not exactly high in demand or fast production...but when I try to use something like C Sharp, I end up needed to find the functions they "invented" on top of the original ones that they STILL use down at the base class once you do.

I don't want to give the forum a brain tumor or cause any heads to pop, but lets just say that pointers, variables, and memory allocation are pretty much the hardest part for someone to grasp.

I don't know exactly how deep of an understanding you have of the concepts you mentioned, but I'm impressed.

 

[TurdSplat]

Recent WhatNitrous sent me "This War of Mine" after I missed that Giveaway, I told him that I'd Pay-It-Forward, so I'm keeping that promise here.
I have some old Steam Keys, they should still be good though. I might be slow to respond, I have other stuff to do, but I will respond.
@WhatNitrous feel free to ask for one of them if you want, that's fine.

Reus Sent to - WhatNitrous
Another World – 20th Anniversary Edition Sent to - Legolas (seperate copy Sent to - AdrianFreeman)
Six Sides of the World Sent to - Ortega10
There Came an Echo Sent to - tryyear
Paranautical Activity: Deluxe Atonement Edition Sent to - breakopenboi
Violett Remastered Sent to - Curtainferno
Trash TV Sent to - ElLoco

1 Key Per Person

For Regulars Only

Spoiler: Regulars?

I pretty much recognize everyone here already, if I don't recognize you I will just click your Username/Latest Activity

If I see at least 8 posts in Gamers Lair, that's good enough.

 

[breakopenboi]

Recent WhatNitrous sent me "This War of Mine" after I missed that Giveaway, I told him that I'd Pay-It-Forward, so I'm keeping that promise here.
I have some old Steam Keys, they should still be good though. I might be slow to respond, I have other stuff to do, but I will respond.
@WhatNitrous feel free to ask for one of them if you want, that's fine.

Reus
Another World – 20th Anniversary Edition
Six Sides of the World
There Came an Echo
Paranautical Activity: Deluxe Atonement Edition
Violett Remastered
Trash TV

1 Key Per Person

For Regulars Only

Spoiler: Regulars?

I pretty much recognize everyone here already, if I don't recognize you I will just click your Username/Latest Activity

If I see at least 8 posts in Gamers Lair, that's good enough.

Could I get paranautical if still available?

 

[WhatNitrous]

Recent WhatNitrous sent me "This War of Mine" after I missed that Giveaway, I told him that I'd Pay-It-Forward, so I'm keeping that promise here.
I have some old Steam Keys, they should still be good though. I might be slow to respond, I have other stuff to do, but I will respond.
@WhatNitrous feel free to ask for one of them if you want, that's fine.

Reus
Another World – 20th Anniversary Edition
Six Sides of the World
There Came an Echo
Paranautical Activity: Deluxe Atonement Edition
Violett Remastered
Trash TV

1 Key Per Person

For Regulars Only

Spoiler: Regulars?

I pretty much recognize everyone here already, if I don't recognize you I will just click your Username/Latest Activity

If I see at least 8 posts in Gamers Lair, that's good enough.

I'm good. Pay it forward to the people here if your going to insist on doing it.

Thank you though

 

[arame]

Recent WhatNitrous sent me "This War of Mine" after I missed that Giveaway, I told him that I'd Pay-It-Forward, so I'm keeping that promise here.
I have some old Steam Keys, they should still be good though. I might be slow to respond, I have other stuff to do, but I will respond.
@WhatNitrous feel free to ask for one of them if you want, that's fine.

Reus
Another World – 20th Anniversary Edition
Six Sides of the World
There Came an Echo
Paranautical Activity: Deluxe Atonement Edition Sent to - breakopenboi
Violett Remastered
Trash TV

1 Key Per Person

For Regulars Only

Spoiler: Regulars?

I pretty much recognize everyone here already, if I don't recognize you I will just click your Username/Latest Activity

If I see at least 8 posts in Gamers Lair, that's good enough.

thanks for the giveaway

 

[Legolas]

Recent WhatNitrous sent me "This War of Mine" after I missed that Giveaway, I told him that I'd Pay-It-Forward, so I'm keeping that promise here.
I have some old Steam Keys, they should still be good though. I might be slow to respond, I have other stuff to do, but I will respond.
@WhatNitrous feel free to ask for one of them if you want, that's fine.

Reus
Another World – 20th Anniversary Edition
Six Sides of the World
There Came an Echo
Paranautical Activity: Deluxe Atonement Edition Sent to - breakopenboi
Violett Remastered
Trash TV

1 Key Per Person

For Regulars Only

Spoiler: Regulars?

I pretty much recognize everyone here already, if I don't recognize you I will just click your Username/Latest Activity

If I see at least 8 posts in Gamers Lair, that's good enough.

May I have Reus please? Thanks for giveaway
So many good choices, I've never played Another world or even heard of it otherwise I would've picked that.

Ok, I've changed my mind , May I have Another World – 20th Anniversary Edition please? Thanks and sorry for the trouble TurdSplat
so many good ones

Edit: Reus is still available for anyone that wants it.