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[DanteFromHell89]

I think in the language of EAnglish, we just call that a "move."

noice

 

[RETRO]

oh, IC, thanks) I forgot about gems intirely

hmm, interesting! thanks)

ooff....damn(

wow! o0 that a valuable piece of info actually!! thanks)

well, obviously))

nah, man, my problem with site's complexity was more about "how to get the actual proposal done already?" and not about some indept mechanics)) but right now I think I'm okay. Thanks for the advices though!! Much appreciated!^^

so if my level is 30 it's 60% for me?)

just give you an example (rough example)
when you hit like level 120 etc.
but you have 80 games with cards and made badges for them
you probabily get a booster pack once a year

and If you are level 120 and you only have badges to 100+ liitle unwanted cheap games badges
you probabily get a booster pack once a year and If you get a booster pack, it will be a trash booster pack

and If you are level 120 and has 2000+ games at your library and you created like 200+ badges of AAA or popular games
sniper elite 5 - metro exodus - god of war - whatever popular and demanding out there
than you can get a booster pack once a month If you are lucky
Since you do quality badges of games, you will receive one booster pack from those games.
You can only get a booster pack for a game, from what ever badge you have created for that game only.

I think the trick here more people creating a badge for the same game, makes you get a booster pack fast.

imaginary example
you make a badge for hede games hidden top down 160is like 1000 badges but since its undesired - unpopular and asset flip and no quality
you will get zilch, nada, nothing no booster pack in 1 year.

but you go and find out like thousands of people buying a card for a game means thousands are creating a badge for that game. That is what popular is and than suddenly and ultra fast BAM you will get a booster pack.

more people buy cards and makes badges for a popular game, triggers your Booster Pack get timing.

 

[DanteFromHell89]

yay!)

 

[Victor]

【AWA Daily Quest】I want to be the very best! (5 ARP)

• Check leaderboard and refresh.

 

[-v-]

It's nothing scary - just pointless.

I'm always offering games from wishlists. Also, I don't care about equal values but I know that others do so all my offers were equal or 3 € - 7 € more valuable than the game I made a bid for.

10 bids - 1 game 1 for 1, equal prices; 2 for one, 5€ more valuable; 6 games offered to pick 3 for 1... All bids to different people, all rejected. Yeah, I'm definitely going with "delusional".

Just in case, read it, I gave my thoughts on this here. I have a profile there that is two years old, but I will start using it from the end of last year, just thanks to the advices of people on this topic, so it is a fairly fresh experience:

GAMERS LAIR

Well, you seem to have used the multiple offer functionality well... but i can tell you those offers will never be taken :ROFLMAO: Undertale is worth nearly 9 bucks on the grey market, and most of your games less than 1. Looks good to me, but it's worth noting that when you send an offer to...

forums.indiegala.com

GAMERS LAIR

【AWA Daily Quest】Smart Minds (5 ARP) Open then refresh page.

forums.indiegala.com

Additionally, I just want to add that I highly recommend using the Skip function. It is located at the bottom right after each person you have matched. If you have someone on your list who wants everything and who has everything - set the maximum time there and next time you will not see this result. So once or twice you will go through the entire list, and the illusion that there are a lot of people on the site who can offer a lot will disappear for you, everything will come closer to a more or less real situation.

Spoiler

And then everything will be like fishing. Do you like fishing? not in video games, but the real one, where first you have to prepare very well for several days, wake up early in the morning, go a few kilometers on foot to some thickets, sit there for a dozen hours feeding mosquitoes, but then catch one good fish and in go home happy as a result.

Spoiler: barter this!

Yay! Trade offer!

 

[Raasontolive]

Yes, it was sent to Victor when I thought he wanted it, but he sent a PM back that he didn't need it. So now I sent it to you, check your PM and let's hope he was right about the Region Block only affecting China. For the record, I got the list straight from the website (Fanatical) where you can check which Countries it can and can not be activated in, so let's hope they were lying.

It totally worked in my CIS region. Odd win but I'll take it. Thank you again!

 

[igbrokeigpeət]

Do we have a resident Barter-Wan-Kenobi here in gala?

Probably .

They found some bump on my head

Shouldn't you have 2?

 

[WhatNitrous]

Probably .

Possibly. But AWOL atm haha.

Shouldn't you have 2?

Depends which head

 

[tryyear]

I think you nailed it. For most of the games from my wishlist I searched for, there were always the same names listed as traders.

I said they're "delusional" because probably 9 out of 10 traders don't realise that games are perishable goods. With every day, every month, that game they think will get them God knows what is worth less and less. I saw that here and I saw that, to an even greater extent, there.

trading something that was bundled for something that was bundled is probably rarely going to happen.the people who accepts could possibly be curators.if a game is highly valued in a bundle it could possibly cost more than the whole bundle in a few years(if the game's not bundle again repeatedly)
edit:for example star dew valley is currently priced 16 dollars in the graymarket.the lowest graymarket value was 10.13.while it was bundled 4 times,somehow it retains its graymarket value

 

[Legolas]

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[sagniklaha]

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Finally reached Tier 2

 

[silent_passenger]

I think your forgetting one small factor here, sometimes those games go up and up.

In most cases your right, entirely depends on the rarity of the key...but just take Dirt 2 as a ridiculous example...sometimes waiting works in their favor, ofc that likely doesn't happen with AAA titles fresh off the key press.

Some keys that never have or will get bundled is another example, they can only be gotten from curators or devs themselves, from what I know of curator keys though you can't trade those except from the curator.

I pay attention (as much as my brain can absorb from afar), much as I loath the idea of the site

Yes, sometimes the prices do go up in time, but that's rare. Mostly when there is some dispute between the developer and publisher or similar drama. But I'm bidding for simple games, most of them 3 to 5 years old.

im going to give an example from indiegala's own old bundle Kung Fu Panda Showdown of Legendary Legends on Steam cost 4 dollars without group buy.its currently 50 dollars on the gray market

It's delisted on Steam so, yeah - as I said, games with some drama and I'm not particularly interested in that one.

is it THAT bad? XDDDDDD

Pretty much. Just checked now - another declined offer.

Just in case, read it, I gave my thoughts on this here. I have a profile there that is two years old, but I will start using it from the end of last year, just thanks to the advices of people on this topic, so it is a fairly fresh experience:

GAMERS LAIR

Well, you seem to have used the multiple offer functionality well... but i can tell you those offers will never be taken :ROFLMAO: Undertale is worth nearly 9 bucks on the grey market, and most of your games less than 1. Looks good to me, but it's worth noting that when you send an offer to...

forums.indiegala.com

GAMERS LAIR

【AWA Daily Quest】Smart Minds (5 ARP) Open then refresh page.

forums.indiegala.com

Additionally, I just want to add that I highly recommend using the Skip function. It is located at the bottom right after each person you have matched. If you have someone on your list who wants everything and who has everything - set the maximum time there and next time you will not see this result. So once or twice you will go through the entire list, and the illusion that there are a lot of people on the site who can offer a lot will disappear for you, everything will come closer to a more or less real situation.

Spoiler

And then everything will be like fishing. Do you like fishing? not in video games, but the real one, where first you have to prepare very well for several days, wake up early in the morning, go a few kilometers on foot to some thickets, sit there for a dozen hours feeding mosquitoes, but then catch one good fish and in go home happy as a result.
Yay! Trade offer!

Thx for the tips.

trading something that was bundled for something that was bundled is probably rarely going to happen.the people who accepts could possibly be curators.if a game is highly valued in a bundle it could possibly cost more than the whole bundle in a few years(if the game's not bundle again repeatedly)
edit:for example star dew valley is currently priced 16 dollars in the graymarket.the lowest graymarket value was 10.13.while it was bundled 4 times,somehow it retains its graymarket value

Funny thing you mentioned Stardew Valley because I made three offers for that game. I can buy it for 14€ on Steam and, in those bids, I offered games worth from 14€ to 18 € - all rejected. Not to mention, I can buy it on HB for 12€ - and I'll probably do that so all those "traders" can keep living in their fantasy world.

Thank you all for your advices. They're really useful but I think I'll probably drop barter.vg in a week because I don't see any value in it right now and I doubt I'll trade anything there ever.

 

[tryyear]

Yes, sometimes the prices do go up in time, but that's rare. Mostly when there is some dispute between the developer and publisher or similar drama. But I'm bidding for simple games, most of them 3 to 5 years old.

It's delisted on Steam so, yeah - as I said, games with some drama and I'm not particularly interested in that one.

Pretty much. Just checked now - another declined offer.

Thx for the tips.

Funny thing you mentioned Stardew Valley because I made three offers for that game. I can buy it for 14€ on Steam and, in those bids, I offered games worth from 14€ to 18 € - all rejected. Not to mention, I can buy it on HB for 12€ - and I'll probably do that so all those "traders" can keep living in their fantasy world.

Thank you all for your advice. They're really useful but I think I'll probably drop barter.vg in a week because I don't see any value in it right now and I doubt I'll trade anything there ever.

someone on barter traded 6 tf2 keys for stardew valley.frankly its one of the more expensive thing i saw,graymarket price wise,that is not vr or delisted on barter

 

[WhatNitrous]

Yes, sometimes the prices do go up in time, but that's rare. Mostly when there is some dispute between the developer and publisher or similar drama. But I'm bidding for simple games, most of them 3 to 5 years old.

It's delisted on Steam so, yeah - as I said, games with some drama and I'm not particularly interested in that one.

Pretty much. Just checked now - another declined offer.

Thx for the tips.

Funny thing you mentioned Stardew Valley because I made three offers for that game. I can buy it for 14€ on Steam and, in those bids, I offered games worth from 14€ to 18 € - all rejected. Not to mention, I can buy it on HB for 12€ - and I'll probably do that so all those "traders" can keep living in their fantasy world.

Thank you all for your advices. They're really useful but I think I'll probably drop barter.vg in a week because I don't see any value in it right now and I doubt I'll trade anything there ever.

Can't say I'm surprised...just the talk scares me away and I could probably rebuild the site if anyone was actually that insane

In reality its not the site thats complex, its the massive database that the site has accumulated over the years, including a giant swarm of those "delusional" users you speak of.

I'm sure with time, getting to know who to trade with (generally) and a complete understanding of the idjuts your going to be forced to deal with it wouldn't be so horrible.

Out there 'trade hunting' for particular games will probably make you tear your hair out, I have to assume most people generally leave a list up and wait...if your in a rush or trying to score a particular game, its gonna be a fuck fest--one you either enjoy or despise...simply due to the insane amount of sheer users and multiple accounts I'm sure are there.

To me that always seemed like more of a waiting game site, one of the reasons I'm not too inclined to join the fray, I have less patience than most rabid animals that were mutated by zombies

someone on barter traded 6 tf2 keys for stardew valley.frankly its one of the more expensive thing i saw,graymarket price wise,that is not vr or delisted on barter

I need a much better explanation on this personally, every time I go to look into this I find multiple kinds, types, prices, etc.

I can't get a good grasp on what these are exactly if I'm being totally honest, except they're worth money

If anyone feels like wasting the time to enlighten me I'd appreciate it.

 

[-v-]

so if my level is 30 it's 60% for me?)

Everything depends on the selected coordinates. 60% more than the original percentage, yes. But if the initial chance is somewhere around 0.2%, then it will become as much as 0.32%.

 

[tryyear]

Can't say I'm surprised...just the talk scares me away and I could probably rebuild the site if anyone was actually that insane

In reality its not the site thats complex, its the massive database that the site has accumulated over the years, including a giant swarm of those "delusional" users you speak of.

I'm sure with time, getting to know who to trade with (generally) and a complete understanding of the idjuts your going to be forced to deal with it wouldn't be so horrible.

Out there 'trade hunting' for particular games will probably make you tear your hair out, I have to assume most people generally leave a list up and wait...if your in a rush or trying to score a particular game, its gonna be a fuck fest--one you either enjoy or despise...simply due to the insane amount of sheer users and multiple accounts I'm sure are there.

To me that always seemed like more of a waiting game site, one of the reasons I'm not too inclined to join the fray, I have less patience than most rabid animals that were mutated by zombies

I need a much better explanation on this personally, every time I go to look into this I find multiple kinds, types, prices, etc.

I can't get a good grasp on what these are exactly if I'm being totally honest, except they're worth money

If anyone feels like wasting the time to enlighten me I'd appreciate it.

after selling a tf at steam community market place,you get more or 2 less dollars .the prices sometimes rises or decreases though

 

[-v-]

I need a much better explanation on this personally, every time I go to look into this I find multiple kinds, types, prices, etc.

I can't get a good grasp on what these are exactly if I'm being totally honest, except they're worth money

If anyone feels like wasting the time to enlighten me I'd appreciate it.

Not sure that I understood the question, so if I answered it wrong - sorry. tf2 cards are regular Steam inventory items, which you can freely transfer to each other (because money from a virtual wallet is not possible, for example), and which can then be sold on the Steam market and get real money.

Steam Community Market :: Listings for Mann Co. Supply Crate Key

Buy and sell Team Fortress 2 items on the Steam Community Market for Steam Wallet funds.

steamcommunity.com

They cost something, and many people use them as some kind of virtual money. Well, someone has NFS Shift and want for it 10 cards. everyone who knows what he are talking about, roughly understands the price in their local currency, and decides whether it is a normal price for him or not.

 

[Rudokhvist]

Not sure that I understood the question, so if I answered it wrong - sorry. tf2 cards are regular Steam inventory items, which you can freely transfer to each other (because money from a virtual wallet is not possible, for example), and which can then be sold on the Steam market and get real money.

Steam Community Market :: Listings for Mann Co. Supply Crate Key

Buy and sell Team Fortress 2 items on the Steam Community Market for Steam Wallet funds.

steamcommunity.com

They cost something, and many people use them as some kind of virtual money. Well, someone has NFS Shift and want for it 10 cards. everyone who knows what he are talking about, roughly understands the price in their local currency, and decides whether it is a normal price for him or not.

you meant to say "keys", not "cards".

 

[-v-]

you meant to say "keys", not "cards".

Yes. Hm. Funny. I never even thought about it, I always talked about them as cards. Like ordinary cards from games...

 

[WhatNitrous]

Not sure that I understood the question, so if I answered it wrong - sorry. tf2 cards are regular Steam inventory items, which you can freely transfer to each other (because money from a virtual wallet is not possible, for example), and which can then be sold on the Steam market and get real money.

Steam Community Market :: Listings for Mann Co. Supply Crate Key

Buy and sell Team Fortress 2 items on the Steam Community Market for Steam Wallet funds.

steamcommunity.com

They cost something, and many people use them as some kind of virtual money. Well, someone has NFS Shift and want for it 10 cards. everyone who knows what he are talking about, roughly understands the price in their local currency, and decides whether it is a normal price for him or not.

This was my confusion...are they all this EXACT item?

Spoiler: TF2

That simple name is what had me running in circles

EDIT:

Thanks btw, the real world link to an example with the chart made it much easier to grasp.