GAMERS LAIR

[Zoliv]

[Cowboy Bebop]
Oh boy...where should I start? XDDD
Don't watch it if you really liked the original anime series. XDDD

I loved the original anime, and i liked the live series, so...

 

[silent_passenger]

Are the Persona games self contained stories with unrelated characters like Final Fantasy or does Persona 4 build off of Persona 3? Yes, under $10 is my preferred price!

As Nitrus and others said, stories are not related apart from some recurring (mysterious) characters and their "home", but they're enhanced in comparison to previous sequels. For example, Persona 3 introduced relationships, but Persona 4 created romance options; P3 had one dungeon; P4 has several different dungeons... In fact, if my memory serves me right, in P4 you'll visit with your friends the school from the P3 story. And that's also the reason for SMT and Persona's popularity. If you play RPGs, you know that 90% have fantasy/medieval settings, 9,9% are science fiction and 0,1% are contemporary settings.

And when Persona 4 became such a huge hit that surpassed the Shin Megami Tensei franchise in popularity, they dropped SMT in all future Persona games titles. Now, in P4 is really hard to get the true ending without a walkthrough on your first playthrough - so, you'll either have 2 or 3 playthroughs (which I would recommend) or you should use a guide,

You'll probably notice Persona 3 has slightly worse reviews than P4 or P5 but that's mostly because of old Persona fans - Persona 4 had 2 versions - PS2 and an upgraded PS Vita version (that's the one remade for PC), but Persona 3 has several versions - PS2and updated PS2, visually the best, PSP... The thing is, while the PSP version is story-wise the most complete, instead of movie cutscenes, you have static visual-novel-style screens for cutscenes. So, the game is just as good as other Persona games, but we would all prefer if Sega and Atlus invested more time and energy and gave us a combo of the best thing from those old versions.

P5 didn't play yet, but I know I won't play Strikers because that game basically ignores your relationships from the main game and I don't like such things.

Apart from SMT Persona games, I'd definitely recommend you SMT Nocturne - there is a reason why that is the only SMT game (apart from Persona's series) remade for PC.

For the end of this long post, something for P4 fans:

Spoiler: It's true!

 

[silent_passenger]

Anyone else had to endure this iGPU?

I never use Intel's CPU's integrated GPU. Even when buying laptops, I always pick the one with NVIDIA dedicated GPU.

 

[ElLoco]

I never use Intel's CPU's integrated GPU. Even when buying laptops, I always pick the one with NVIDIA dedicated GPU.

It's not even integrated in the CPU.

 

[silent_passenger]

It's not even integrated in the CPU.

Yeah, didn't watch the vid. I see it's an ancient GPU from the early 2000s. I think I used 3dfx Voodoo at that time.

 

[ElLoco]

Yeah, didn't watch the vid. I see it's an ancient GPU from the early 2000s. I think I used 3dfx Voodoo at that time.

Then have you used 2D Accelerator(s)?

 

[silent_passenger]

Then have you used 2D Accelerator(s)?

Oh, yeah - GDI accelerator. Voodoo3 is still one of my fav graphic cards to this day.

 

[silent_passenger]

I even remember my first PC configuration (apart from my C64 and Amiga 500 computers) - it was Pentium 200 MMX, 32 GB RAM, 1,7 GB HDD, S3 Trio+ 2 MB graphics.

 

[Kid Kidding]

can we all just agree to not use gamers lair to trade,maybe someone could make a thread trader cavern,maybe

Done!

 

[Rudokhvist]

I even remember my first PC configuration (apart from my C64 and Amiga 500 computers) - it was Pentium 200 MMX, 32 GB RAM, 1,7 GB HDD, S3 Trio+ 2 MB graphics.

Rich boy, I've had Am386DX-40, 4GB RAM, 110 MB HDD, don't remember the card but it has 256Kb memory (maybe also one of early S3? unsure).

 

[silent_passenger]

Rich boy, I've had Am386DX-40, 4GB RAM, 110 MB HDD, don't remember the card but it has 256Kb memory (maybe also one of early S3? unsure).

Nah, I was anything but rich. But my parents just sold an old house of my late grandparents and they gave me money for a PC. It was the second-best configuration available on the market at that time.

 

[Rudokhvist]

Nah, I was anything but rich. But my parents just sold an old house of my late grandparents and they gave me money for a PC. It was the second-best configuration available on the market at that time.

Well, they had somewhere to live if they sold grandparents' house, and thay could even spare some of those money, so you were definitely not poor. I got my first x86-compatible PC very late, it probably was around year 2000, when there were pentium II already. Until then I only had ZX Spectrum. I was still a student so I used scholarship money to buy it, and I have to save for like three month or more to be able to get even that PC. And I assembled it myself from second-hand parts, and it probably was second-worst configuration available . My friend "sold" me his display, which was actually some terminal from a mainstream that was re-made into VGA... It was black-and-green, and while he and his father re-make it - it once lost both vertical and horizontal sync, so electron ray was in the middle of the screen for some time, and it burned a small spot on luminophore. When I got it - I adjusted the picture so that a place where shots hit in DOOM were in the same place as that spot, so I got a free crosshair in DOOM.

 

[WhatNitrous]

I see! I've played Catherine. I read that it was referenced in a Persona game. I'm playing through the Yakuza series now. The bundle is on sale on Steam and I had to complete my collection of Yakuza 0-6

It actually is...or seems to be.

There is more than one dungeon that is similar in a sense (but the older persona games are flat--so don't expect to be climbing blocks), I'm having trouble remembering if it was P3 or P4 that had that level in it and P5 has a character that 'could' go in that direction...but I didn't get very far in that as I said, still have the PS3 disc in a box somewhere sadly.

Now thats its out on PC, i'll get to it when the price drops myself heh.

In defense of ctpax, he offers many games from Feudalife and of high art in a genre on Steam where games show a complete lack of basic figure drawing skills and 2D design knowledge. Steam keeps on offering me games in this genre and they aren't enticing at all.

Ouch

An I thought I was being brutal

there is no Ultimate Doom, Final Doom, Master Levels Doom, BFG Edition, etc. on Steam. Last year, they revised the franchise and combined everything into simpler and more understandable sets. Everyone who only had Doom 3 got the BFG Edition, everyone who had the original Doom got Ultimate for it, everyone who only had some expansion for Doom 2 got the game itself as well. if you haven't received it, you only need to launch the game once, and everything will appear in the library.

I activated and it was called "Ultimate Doom", you'll find it in this forum, and as I showed pax once before when this came up...they may have revised it on their end, but it seems Steam didn't get (or ignored) the memo

Dude...I know what I'm talking about, please))

This time he does.

I remember it wasn't received very well by some ppl (media/journalists) just 'cause it looked like something suicidal. But SMT/Persona always was somewhat defiant, giant green tentacled cock chariots included

I played it late in its time so I never heard about this.

Ouch...

No, ouch is when I got DMC: Devil May Cry for PC and it came with DLC to use permanent devil trigger from the start...and the game was fucking horrible on PC

I beat that game 5-6 times in a row on PS3 and lost my save right before unlocking that perk

Ok, so both were a nightmare for a gamer lmao.

There is only a small funny thing in that bundle - Sega has doubled regional prices, so every game in that bundle now costs twice as much as it costs with a "regular" discount two months ago . Of course, people with prices in dollars and euros did not affected.

Thats ouch!!!

 

[WhatNitrous]

Where's my Nicole?!?

Hey, for once you didn't instigate the situation.

I'm so proud of you

Anyone else had to endure this iGPU?

I don't even know what that 'thing' IS

SMT Nocturne - there is a reason why that is the only SMT game (apart from Persona's series) remade for PC.

Love the rest of the post.

This I disagree with, I haven't played the remake...but thats the game I was talking about thats a colorless maze with Dante in it...and the reason it was released was guess what? Dante

Do not start with Nocturne lol.

I even remember my first PC configuration (apart from my C64 and Amiga 500 computers) - it was Pentium 200 MMX, 32 GB RAM, 1,7 GB HDD, S3 Trio+ 2 MB graphics.

Pfft, my first PC was an IBM with a 30mb HDD and 540k ram...I had DOOM at school and I could only run Wolfenstein 3D and QBasic at my house

And that came from my Uncle who had money when he realized I had a knack for them...the first real PC I ever owned I still have--a hand me down from my old man that ran Windows 95/98 and actually played DOOM

My second I jacked up so much now you wouldn't even know it was an XP rig and that still doesn't have those specs with everything at the max

My gaming rig has 32GB of Ram in it right now, I have an extra 32 but thats just extra heat since almost nothing actually needs it atm.

 

[silent_passenger]

Pfft, my first PC was an IBM with a 30mb HDD and 540k ram...I had DOOM at school and I could only run Wolfenstein 3D and QBasic at my house

Didn't really care about x86 PCs while everything looked much better on Amiga 500, but I bought later on one old, rundown, 486 just because it was impossible to play Wing Commander 1 and 2 on anything else (even with SloMo app).

 

[-v-]

I activated and it was called "Ultimate Doom"

I checked them all.

Spoiler

A little later I explained what happened to different versions and addons. This mainly applies to those who may think that they have only part of the collection and will go to buy the keys for everything else. And they will not give anything new.
By the way, they messed up a bit here, because I only have the standard version of Eternal (and I'm not sure I want DLCs, because the authors' imagination went somewhere wrong), and Steam thinks i have complete edition. Maybe it's because of the very structure of the game, because the campaign is there as DLC.

 

[WhatNitrous]

Didn't really care about x86 PCs while everything looked much better on Amiga 500, but I bought later on one old, rundown, 486 just because it was impossible to play Wing Commander 1 and 2 on anything else (even with SloMo app).

It wasn't even an x86 if I recall it was something XT...it was before Window. Had the bare bones graphical UI that was like xtree folders on the screen.

 

[WhatNitrous]

I checked them all.

Spoiler

View attachment 11738

A little later I explained what happened to different versions and addons. This mainly applies to those who may think that they have only part of the collection and will go to buy the keys for everything else. And they will not give anything new.
By the way, they messed up a bit here, because I only have the standard version of Eternal (and I'm not sure I want DLCs, because the authors' imagination went somewhere wrong), and Steam thinks i have complete edition. Maybe it's because of the very structure of the game, because the campaign is there as DLC.

There is no Ultimate Doom in the list, as I said. what activated as Ultimate Doom is actually Doom 1993, and that was after the new year.

I was confused myself when my Fanatical key from a mystery bundle said DOOM (1993) and steam activated it as Ultimate Doom. But thats my activation list I posted, there is NO DOOM 1993 on it.

I think this is should be a debate between bethesda and steam, not us lol.

EDIT:

Is there an Ultimate DOOM? No.
Does Steam Activate DOOM Classic as Ultimate DOOM? Yes.

 

[-v-]

Or I don't understand something, or someone doesn't understand me...

GAMERS LAIR

Anyone else had to endure this :poop: iGPU?

forums.indiegala.com

But even if I'm not explaining well, just read the entire text in the link to the bundle, Bethesda herself explained everything there.

 

[Victor]

View attachment 11733
Dude...I know what I'm talking about, please))

I activated and it was called "Ultimate Doom", you'll find it in this forum, and as I showed pax once before when this came up...they may have revised it on their end, but it seems Steam didn't get (or ignored) the memo
View attachment 11736View attachment 11737

I checked them all.

Spoiler

View attachment 11738

A little later I explained what happened to different versions and addons. This mainly applies to those who may think that they have only part of the collection and will go to buy the keys for everything else. And they will not give anything new.
By the way, they messed up a bit here, because I only have the standard version of Eternal (and I'm not sure I want DLCs, because the authors' imagination went somewhere wrong), and Steam thinks i have complete edition. Maybe it's because of the very structure of the game, because the campaign is there as DLC.

There is no Ultimate Doom in the list, as I said. what activated as Ultimate Doom is actually Doom 1993, and that was after the new year.

I was confused myself when my Fanatical key from a mystery bundle said DOOM (1993) and steam activated it as Ultimate Doom. But thats my activation list I posted, there is NO DOOM 1993 on it.

I think this is should be a debate between bethesda and steam, not us lol.

EDIT:

Is there an Ultimate DOOM? No.
Does Steam Activate DOOM Classic as Ultimate DOOM? Yes.

Well... Ultimate DOOM = DOOM (1993)
It's the usual Dev naming their batch of keys something and putting the Apps/Games inside it.
Not necessary the activated Package name will be the same product inside it.