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datadragon

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This, the youtube links earlier...I'm starting to think your a ChatGPT bot :LOL:
I think the bots are all too busy grabbing all the keys from the giveaway threads (damn bot ninjas). :ROFLMAO: Of course we can all search or use chatgpt until the world becomes like the movie idiocracy, but of course knowing what to search might not always be obvious like finding the name of the person in the video and their channel first, or finding a video that actually recommended some games for us to try learning japanese vs just a list of them given if we do a normal search.

I really wouldn't recommend this for a total beginner, but it's funny to picture a total newb trying that. Don't want to totally knock it though, this approach is fine if you've already studied a bunch and need practice while learning new Words and Kanji at the same time. For a total beginner, you need games that specifically target that market, the Learn Japanese games we talked about last time are perfect. If you don't know any Words, Kanji, or Grammar at all, it would be like running an entire book through google translate (line-by-line) and trying to learn the meaning of each Word and Kanji by repetition while guessing how the Grammar works. It's not so bad if you know a bunch of the words and some Kanjis/Grammar to begin with, by the process of elimination (eliminating the words you already know) you can figure out what the other Kanjis mean, because the game will likely repeat them and you'll learn by context when Google Translate keeps giving the same definition to the same Kanji over and over as you play (same for the words), but the Grammar you'll have to study separately. This will easily turn a 16 hour game into a 160 hour game (perhaps longer).
Some wouldnt ever try to learn, but with the game attached, who knows. Some just like to try to learn vocabulary, something like influent with a game attached. Yes, google translate can also give a very basic translation and the app can translate using camera pointed at text like on screen text in a game or pointing to an image somewhat already, so thats pretty cool such as I've used it for a couple ancient games that were never translated and couldnt copy the screen text to at minimum understand the menu options and some text shown when you talk to people or do a task. Works mainly when text is static and not moving. Im sure all the new translation devices will do similar. That might help such as burningpixels mention of menu options in another language is why I mentioned that. Also I've run across some steam games that are another language only and dont look like they ever will be translated, visual novels, and possibly could be tried with those if you really wanted to try that game but never did due to the other language, but yes its not like a translated game (which also can be very poor) and so for the patient only as it adds lots of time.

Probably can't be bought because on the websites says steam gift so probably no keys for it..
Everytime a game gets removed from steam prices go brrr even if the game is bad or not working
Yes it seems like pricing on delisted keys is more like ebay and etsy where people put up things sometimes at ridiculous prices just to see if anyone buys or maybe with a crazy high price and best offer accepted to gauge demand when they dont know what something is worth and dont want to auction, but usually never will sell at that price. At least you can search sold listings to gauge value however, and research older sold listings. If you went just by listed items but not yet sold, some people might get the wrong impression of actual value. I think auction would be better for delisted keys but with a longer timeframe for these type of keys, maybe indiegala can have someday.
 
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I just don't have the patience...and just having Turdsplat explain it gives me a brain burst :LOL:

I'd really like too, but I doubt I'll ever have the patience too as well.
Lol same here, I had to read again and again :LOL: still having brain burst ahha
I search how many kanji they exist they are around 50000 so many ahah.
Yesterday I searched, there are rumors she is married with children but confirmed 100%
I've done this before too, but it can be overwhelming early on...now imagine every time you saw those options you didn't just click through them--you try to understand them rather than just remember the pattern to start the game...I can imagine it would get frustrating lol.
yeah in that musical game there are limited menu, maybe it is possibile to learn rpg games menu or even spells by memorizing the ideogram, but not more, to understand the game how many years need to study? 5-10? lol
I really wouldn't recommend this for a total beginner, but it's funny to picture a total newb trying that. :ROFLMAO:
If you don't know any Words, Kanji, or Grammar at all, it would be like running an entire book through google translate (line-by-line) and trying to learn the meaning of each Word and Kanji by repetition while guessing how the Grammar works. It's not so bad if you know a bunch of the words and some Kanjis/Grammar to begin with, by the process of elimination (eliminating the words you already know) you can figure out what the other Kanjis mean, because the game will likely repeat them and you'll learn by context when Google Translate keeps giving the same definition to the same Kanji over and over as you play (same for the words), but the Grammar you'll have to study separately. This will easily turn a 16 hour game into a 160 hour game (perhaps longer).

I don't want to totally knock it though, this approach is fine if you've already studied a bunch and need practice while learning new Words and Kanji at the same time. For a total beginner, you need games that specifically target that market, the Learn Japanese games we talked about last time are perfect. (y)

I found some other ones, one looks decent, the other not so great.

This doesn't look like it's worth $25 the words are too easy, you can learn them in any Japanese beginner book, or Youtube for free. If this game shows up in a bundle for 60 cents, then I'd recommend it.

This game looks much better to me, but I don't think it's worth $20 I would say $5 is a good full price and bundle price would obviously be best.

If I'm being critical of it though, it replaces Kanji with Hiragana. The Kanji 私 is spelled out as わたし in the game (WATASHI) it means I or Me (depending on context) and 犬 is spelled out as いぬ (INU) it means Dog. Here I'll point out in case anyone will call me out on it, that の (NO) is Grammar, it turns "Me" into "My" so "Watashino Inu" means "My dog" so yeah, my complaint is that it's not teaching you the Kanji that would show up in real Japanese, but to be fair, this is how they teach Japanese children before introducing them to Kanji, they start replacing the words spelled in Hiragana with the actual Kanjis, that replacing part you'll have to do by yourself using a book or Youtube, but as long as you're aware of it, the game looks nice. (y)
Nice I added Learn Japanese RPG Hiragana Forbidden Speech to the wishlist!
I watched the trailer there is a word I already learnt from Hannah Minx
"ABUNAI"
Her method is so efficient XD
abunai1.jpg
Some wouldnt ever try to learn, but with the game attached, who knows. Some just like to try to learn vocabulary, something like influent with a game attached. Yes, google translate can also give a very basic translation and the app can translate using camera pointed at text like on screen text in a game or pointing to an image somewhat already, so thats pretty cool such as I've used it for a couple ancient games that were never translated and couldnt copy the screen text to at minimum understand the menu options and some text shown when you talk to people or do a task. Works mainly when text is static and not moving. Im sure all the new translation devices will do similar. That might help such as burningpixels mention of menu options in another language is why I mentioned that. Also I've run across some steam games that are another language only and dont look like they ever will be translated, visual novels, and possibly could be tried with those if you really wanted to try that game but never did due to the other language, but yes its not like a translated game (which also can be very poor) and so for the patient only as it adds lots of time.
There Is a free rpg game I posted in past it looks good, I'd like to try but it totally in japanese
Someone on steam made a guide to use an OCR program that translate jap text into another language.
here the guide (I haven't tested)
here guide to the game with translated menu
Btw does someone here buy on Epic Games?
No, I just collect freebies there :LOL:
 

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WhatNitrous

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Btw does someone here buy on Epic Games?
Once, required Internet and then ended up on steam anyways...and still requires Internet :LOL:

Dropped FF7R out of annoyance lol.
Well just upcoming sale, will have 33% discount coupon and 10% refund Epic Rewards
Sorry, thrice, Bought Trails from Zero and AC Valhalla, Trails has no DRM, and AC runs through Ubisoft...would do that again.
And... Mens sana in corpore sano...

Boobs sell :ROFLMAO:
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I have only 3 keys and give it to Whatnitrus, RETRO and myself ☺️
If I end up with a key for that next I think I'll shit myself :ROFLMAO:
 
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