Official Feudalife CHALLENGE feedback Thread

[tugamix666]

Ok , I gotta ask, nobody has to answer , but did they reduced the drop rate of galacredits even further ? Before I was able to get 10-15 cents and 2 keys per run , but this last entire week has been horendous , lucky if I get 5 cents , can't even remember when is the last time I saw famous 0,04 cents . So I guess my question is whats your average per day ?

I got 0.04 cents on 3 challenges just now, but I have been getting around 5-10 cents lately when it used to be a bit more, maybe its just bad luck.

 

[Jer7cho]

I got 0.04 cents on 3 challenges just now

Noice

 

[all x and r]

Cool!

 

[Nexus Prime24]

I got 0.04 cents on 3 challenges just now, but I have been getting around 5-10 cents lately when it used to be a bit more, maybe its just bad luck.

Here's a tip from me, don't finish the challenges in getting the keys first instead reach the close limit of each of the challenges without any of the malus limit and once you reach 0.20 cents of gala credits that's when it's time to get the keys.

 

[Nexus Prime24]

I realized this a while after mostly focusing on getting gala credits instead of winning for steam keys but it takes around 5 days or 4 depending on your luck if you constantly get 0.20 cents each day to reach 1$ and it takes around 50 days to reach 10$ it's a long process but not sure it's worth it or not.

 

[Narga95]

I realized this a while after mostly focusing on getting gala credits instead of winning for steam keys but it takes around 5 days or 4 depending on your luck if you constantly get 0.20 cents each day to reach 1$ and it takes around 50 days to reach 10$ it's a long process but not sure it's worth it or not.

Surely not worth it, it's a choice between spending around 10 minutes everyday for 3/4/5 random keys depending on malus (the worst you can get are 3 20 cents games assuming no dupes), and between spending more than 30 minutes using all 240 galasilver for 20 cents.

At least with the random keys you can say "look, I got a removed game worth 200$! worth it" if you're lucky, or some good games that are still being sold for more than 1$ which for 10 minutes of your time it's not great but not that bad, on the other hand spending that much time for 20 cents it's way worse than just working (or trading, or even answering surveys, or anything else really).

 

[Zoliv]

Surely not worth it, it's a choice between spending around 10 minutes everyday for 3/4/5 random keys depending on malus (the worst you can get are 3 20 cents games assuming no dupes), and between spending more than 30 minutes using all 240 galasilver for 20 cents.

At least with the random keys you can say "look, I got a removed game worth 200$! worth it" if you're lucky, or some good games that are still being sold for more than 1$ which for 10 minutes of your time it's not great but not that bad, on the other hand spending that much time for 20 cents it's way worse than just working (or trading, or even answering surveys, or anything else really).

I think he means to win the 2/3/4/5 keys anyway, but after grinding the galacredit. And i'm not sure it's really worth it.

 

[Jer7cho]

I would say if you are a newcomer its not worth grinding , just play for the games , but since I' ve been a member for a long time and have 99% of the games here , eh its ok to grind a little bit and maybe get a nice indie title here and there . I would not suggest acumulating large sums of credits since Indiegala had its share of problems with users losing credits due to this site errors .

Galacredits dissappear if you hit return button during purchase

This has happened to me twice, and because it was small amounts every time, I'm not complaining. However, this could be an issue for somebody. I put something in the cart, went to checout and wanted to pay with something ELSE than galacredits, but forgot to untick the little box. It happened...

forums.indiegala.com

 

[Nirjor]

Surely not worth it, it's a choice between spending around 10 minutes everyday for 3/4/5 random keys depending on malus (the worst you can get are 3 20 cents games assuming no dupes), and between spending more than 30 minutes using all 240 galasilver for 20 cents.

At least with the random keys you can say "look, I got a removed game worth 200$! worth it" if you're lucky, or some good games that are still being sold for more than 1$ which for 10 minutes of your time it's not great but not that bad, on the other hand spending that much time for 20 cents it's way worse than just working (or trading, or even answering surveys, or anything else really).

5 random keys?
No one is winning 5 keys per day unless they are making store purchases along with positive feedback. Which makes it pointless to buy a game in order to win a random game.
Even winning 4 keys is hard. I would say it would be almost impossible without the hoeing challenge.
There are some good random games on challenge but unless some one is new to the forum, most of us already have those.
Can't say much about selling these games on grey site as I know almost nothing about those.
But 0.20$/day is not that bad, at least from my perspective. You can buy the hitman games for less 1$, there are games like fallout 3, resident evil 4 that cost less than 5$ during sale. I think it would be easy to trade these or just doing group giveaways on steamgifts.
Surveys aren't available in my region and there are scam ones too.

 

[Narga95]

I think he means to win the 2/3/4/5 keys anyway, but after grinding the galacredit. And i'm not sure it's really worth it.

Yeah I know, I was listing the differences.
10 minutes for 3/4/5 keys and stop, or play more for 30 minutes (because without malus now it's more than one minute) for 20 cents as a bonus.
So 10 minutes for 60 cents or more than 30 for 60+20.
Alas around 30 minutes for the 20 cents it's not worth it.

5 random keys?
No one is winning 5 keys per day unless they are making store purchases along with positive feedback. Which makes it pointless to buy a game in order to win a random game.
Even winning 4 keys is hard. I would say it would be almost impossible without the hoeing challenge.
There are some good random games on challenge but unless some one is new to the forum, most of us already have those.
Can't say much about selling these games on grey site as I know almost nothing about those.
But 0.20$/day is not that bad, at least from my perspective. You can buy the hitman games for less 1$, there are games like fallout 3, resident evil 4 that cost less than 5$ during sale. I think it would be easy to trade these or just doing group giveaways on steamgifts.
Surveys aren't available in my region and there are scam ones too.

You can easily win 3 games with -7 malus, you can easily win 4 games with a giveaway at -5 malus, and since he wants to grind 20 cents every day he could buy a discounted 20 cents game every day and giveaway for -3 malus, so 5 games (actually more but let's say he wants to lose more for getting more galacredit).

0.20$/day it's pretty bad considering all the potential time you're wasting, unless someone it's a child who has time to waste I would say it's not that great of a deal. Working or improving a skill in that time it's better when you're an adult.
Selling on gray market sites it's something that usually people don't do with games from indiegala, for obvious reasons, but you can trade them for cards or other games, especially the ones worth a lot or that are nice games, like darksiders for example. Why spend so much time grinding something when you can get one of those 1$ hitman games with trading some wins you got in 10 minutes?
And surveys were just an example, a weak one too as it was meant to be "even someone not efficient in gaining money it's a better choice".

 

[MadLibrarian]

You can easily win 3 games with -7 malus, you can easily win 4 games with a giveaway at -5 malus, and since he wants to grind 20 cents every day he could buy a discounted 20 cents game every day and giveaway for -3 malus, so 5 games (actually more but let's say he wants to lose more for getting more galacredit).

Most of the time there is not a single game on sale for 20 cents at the IG store. Also I think the majority can't easily win hoeing at 14/15s malus. You are probably in a small minority with that.

Selling on gray market sites it's something that usually people don't do with games from indiegala, for obvious reasons, but you can trade them for cards or other games, especially the ones worth a lot or that are nice games, like darksiders for example. Why spend so much time grinding something when you can get one of those 1$ hitman games with trading some wins you got in 10 minutes?

Actually valuable games from Feudalife are few and far between. I've won almost 1000 keys so far and have yet to win Darksiders even once for example. Most of the somewhat valuable keys are old and forgotten games that very few want, it's usually impossible to trade them away at value for newer games. Sometimes there's nobody interested apart from resellers who generally offer like a third of the grey market price in return. And the more common drops might be worth 20 to 50 cents or even more on the grey market but barter and Steamtrades are so oversaturated with them that it takes effort to trade them away even for shovelware with trading cards. It takes a lot of effort trying to find trades for them to get back like 10 cents value in trading cards.

Don't get me wrong, I've gotten quite a lot of nice bundled games for my Feudalife keys and there's still definitely value in them but a lot less than say last summer.

 

[Narga95]

Most of the time there is not a single game on sale for 20 cents at the IG store. Also I think the majority can't easily win hoeing at 14/15s malus. You are probably in a small minority with that.

Most of the time yeah, that's why I wrote 3/4/5 in my original reply. You're quoting a reply for someone else who said winning 5 keys isn't possible, in which I replied it is when there is a game discounted at 20 cents and that's usually for a week.
I talked about winning 3/4/5 games a day, some people can do 5 some people can do 4 some people can do 3. I included the average player in my original reply with 3/4/5 I believe the 1/2 games per day are the real minority and I didn't include them

Actually valuable games from Feudalife are few and far between. I've won almost 1000 keys so far and have yet to win Darksiders even once for example. Most of the somewhat valuable keys are old and forgotten games that very few want, it's usually impossible to trade them away at value for newer games. Sometimes there's nobody interested apart from resellers who generally offer like a third of the grey market price in return. And the more common drops might be worth 20 to 50 cents or even more on the grey market but barter and Steamtrades are so oversaturated with them that it takes effort to trade them away even for shovelware with trading cards. It takes a lot of effort trying to find trades for them to get back like 10 cents value in trading cards.

Don't get me wrong, I've gotten quite a lot of nice bundled games for my Feudalife keys and there's still definitely value in them but a lot less than say last summer.

I have no problem with trading games for either newer games. Or trading them for some cards or items to buy newer games elsewhere.
You just need to know the price of what you're selling and who you're selling at.
In regards to knowing the price of what you're selling it's all about having general knownledge of steam games, most people don't have that so I understand if they trade for shovelware and don't feel like they're getting much but oh well.
In regards to who're you selling with there are plenty of people who:
- Want to have cheap +1 in their library and would mass buy games for 30 cents each
- Want to have removed games and would pay the right price for them
- Want to have a specific game that it's trash for you but a treasure for someone else
Steamtrades and barter aren't the only place you can use to find people interested in your games.

But sure, you will end up with more keys unsold than sold, but that's because I usually won 5 games per day before all the stupid timer changes and you can't possibly sell so many games in so little time unless you really invest your time with it. With just bumping some trades or asking some people you can easily trade 25% of your stuff easily. The rest you can either actively search, do giveaways, or gift to friends.

And of course there are some good games you could not get, you never found darksiders, I never found the stalker bundle, but we probably both got something worthwhile while playing, the period doesn't really matter since it's just luck based, what matters is what you do with it.

 

[MadLibrarian]

Most of the time yeah, that's why I wrote 3/4/5 in my original reply. You're quoting a reply for someone else who said winning 5 keys isn't possible, in which I replied it is when there is a game discounted at 20 cents and that's usually for a week.
I talked about winning 3/4/5 games a day, some people can do 5 some people can do 4 some people can do 3. I included the average player in my original reply with 3/4/5 I believe the 1/2 games per day are the real minority and I didn't include them

I think you have a bit distorted perspective about this because on the IG forums most people discussing Feudalife are the core, dedicated audience who have been at it for quite some time. On Steamgifts or on reddit you can see people reporting 1-2 wins a day a lot more often. I agree though that at least 3 wins per day is attainable for most if they do giveaways for malus reduction and put in time to get comfortable with the challenges.

Steamtrades and barter aren't the only place you can use to find people interested in your games.

And of course there are some good games you could not get, you never found darksiders, I never found the stalker bundle, but we probably both got something worthwhile while playing, the period doesn't really matter since it's just luck based, what matters is what you do with it.

Maybe I should look into trading on reddit. Any other ideas? Though I'm currently taking a break from trading even on barter as it ate up too much of my time and I got burned out.
And yes, of course there are some good pulls but I don't think it's fair to compare them to galacredit earnings the way you did with that Darksiders example. The average real value of wins is not that great and definitely worse than it looks on paper. Grinding for galacredits is absolutely not worth it value-wise either but turning them into extra Feudalife keys with a 20c purchase (through malus reduction) feels even more of a waste. At this point I wouldn't buy 2-3 extra Feudalife drops for 20c. I'd rather save up for a nice game.

 

[BlueKidnapOverpower]

The thing i hate the most is playing and getting nothing. Just stopped playing because i got like 9 challenges in total winning nothing and like 6 in a row winning nothing xD . Will try later .

EDIT: just to clarify, i was blaming my luck, i appreciate the free stuff .

 

[Narga95]

I think you have a bit distorted perspective about this because on the IG forums most people discussing Feudalife are the core, dedicated audience who have been at it for quite some time. On Steamgifts or on reddit you can see people reporting 1-2 wins a day a lot more often. I agree though that at least 3 wins per day is attainable for most if they do giveaways for malus reduction and put in time to get comfortable with the challenges.

That wasn't the point of my reply there, I was talking about the possibility of winning 5 per key.
It's not distorted since 3 it's the average, there's a lot of outlier bias when it comes to things like this since you will see most people reply with low scores such as 1-2 and no one saying they won 3 or more, that's because people who win 3 or more usually don't want to tell others how to win more and snatch more keys from them, they know better than to just win more. Also most people who report winning only 1 or 2 are new people that will end up just abandoning the challenges after some days or just improve and start winning 3 games (while not saying they win more).

Maybe I should look into trading on reddit. Any other ideas? Though I'm currently taking a break from trading even on barter as it ate up too much of my time and I got burned out.
And yes, of course there are some good pulls but I don't think it's fair to compare them to galacredit earnings the way you did with that Darksiders example. The average real value of wins is not that great and definitely worse than it looks on paper. Grinding for galacredits is absolutely not worth it value-wise either but turning them into extra Feudalife keys with a 20c purchase (through malus reduction) feels even more of a waste. At this point I wouldn't buy 2-3 extra Feudalife drops for 20c. I'd rather save up for a nice game.

If you have a big friend list you can see if anyone has the games you have wishlisted, you can search on specific steam groups, you can search on facebook groups, you can ask your friends, you can try to use the old steam trades sites which aren't closed like tf2outpost, multiple choices to choose from. But honestly if you feel burnt out, just stick with bumping what you already have.

For Darksiders I never said it was common, I just said it was possible. I already stated in my original reply that the worst you can get it's all 20 cents games, which is the more common result, but you will stuff like darksiders eventually that will have more value. Again, it's just an example, you can say you can find Your Doodles are bugged, primal carnage, Cargo!, etc. which are worth around 2$ and are just uncommon, or you could mention any 1$ or more games you can get (which are a lot), in any case it will be surely worth more than galacredits.

Also honestly indiegala drops are better than buying stuff honestly, just the possibility of getting one of those rare removed games it's outweights anything else. But that's preferences I guess.

 

[FreaKill]

Caught the "challenge ended, but results didn't show up" bug earlier today - was hoping that at best I'd wasted an attempt, but mentally prepared myself for false malus. Luckily hadn't gotten malus and when I went to my library later it turned out I had actually gotten a game from that challenge too!
I think I had the challenge glitch entirely in my favor like that two, maybe three times in all the time I've been playing.

 

[PurpleGreenTremors]

That wasn't the point of my reply there, I was talking about the possibility of winning 5 per key.
It's not distorted since 3 it's the average, there's a lot of outlier bias when it comes to things like this since you will see most people reply with low scores such as 1-2 and no one saying they won 3 or more, that's because people who win 3 or more usually don't want to tell others how to win more and snatch more keys from them, they know better than to just win more. Also most people who report winning only 1 or 2 are new people that will end up just abandoning the challenges after some days or just improve and start winning 3 games (while not saying they win more).

"most people who report winning only 1 or 2 are new people"

I am a counterexample. I have been playing Feudalife daily since about last April, and last year I used to consistently win about three games per day (at 0, 6, and 12 malus). But after the changes at the end of last year (increased base malus, faster clock after 1 win, even faster clock after 2 wins), I can no longer do that. I can win a key at 0 malus in any challenge and at 7 malus in all except picking and tree-cutting, but at 14 malus it becomes practically impossible for me - I have only been able to win with 14 malus once this year with archers, but never again. In most of the challenges I cannot even reach the galacredit threshold at 14 malus, for example in picking I can never reach it. Note that I do not use any additional malus reductions from giveaways/purchases.

I would love to learn more. Please record some of your plays where you win a third and fourth key, I would like to see how you do it. Maybe you are lucky to have a computer system with even less lag than mine? Or more likely just more skill.
[Edited to make it clear no aggression/bad implications were intended, towards Narga95 or anyone else.]

 

[Narga95]

"most people who report winning only 1 or 2 are new people"

I am a counterexample. I have been playing Feudalife daily since about last April, and last year I used to consistently win about three games per day (at 0, 6, and 12 malus). But after the changes at the end of last year (increased base malus, faster clock after 1 win, even faster clock after 2 wins), I can no longer do that. I can win a key at 0 malus in any challenge and at 7 malus in all except picking and tree-cutting, but at 14 malus it becomes practically impossible for me - I have only been able to win with 14 malus once this year with archers, but never again. In most of the challenges I cannot even reach the galacredit threshold at 14 malus, for example in picking I can never reach it. Note that I do not use any additional malus reductions from giveaways/purchases.

>most people are new people
>I am not one of those people
Well, that's what most means, otherwise I would have said all.

If it is so easy for you, I would love to learn from you. Please record some of your plays where you win a third and fourth key, I would like to see how you do it. Or maybe you have a very different computer system that somehow affects your timer?

It's worded a little aggressive and I don't like the implications of me cheating but sure, as soon as the challenges open I will record it and post it.
But mind you, I won't do it for you, but for everyone else who needs help since like I said I don't like what you wrote.
You're lucky I got a negative feedback because someone didn't read the description of my giveaway so I will even record it with a -7 malus instead of a -5.

 

[PurpleGreenTremors]

>most people are new people
>I am not one of those people
Well, that's what most means, otherwise I would have said all.



It's worded a little aggressive and I don't like the implications of me cheating but sure, as soon as the challenges open I will record it and post it.
But mind you, I won't do it for you, but for everyone else who needs help since like I said I don't like what you wrote.
You're lucky I got a negative feedback because someone didn't read the description of my giveaway so I will even record it with a -7 malus instead of a -5.

I did not mean to imply any cheating at all, I apologize if you got that impression. I already edited the text a bit to hopefully make it clear, I am happy to edit further if you think there is need. I simply meant that it is known that e.g. Feudalife lags differently on different computers - maybe you are lucky to have very little lag etc.?

 

[Narga95]

Ok I recorded the two most important challenges, watering and hoeing. You can easily do pine, sickling, or mining at 0 malus and then you have to decide between Watering and Archer for the -7 win, archer is RNG so just getting good at watering is enough.
I then showed how to win in a bad map at -14 hoeing, and how I lost at -21 with 55 and 57/60 because of lag in one and a bad decision in the second. With a giveaway you can easily win the 4th one.

http://imgur.com/a/q4xqUSZ

Edit: forgot to mention that the timer changed two times for the worst, and before the second one it was easy to win the 4th key with -21 on hoeing. Now it requires a decent map and no errors or a good map.