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In every discussion about AI a few decades ago, all experts agreed on only one thing: AI will take many jobs, but art will solely remain in the hands of humankind. And then exactly the opposite happened: the first thing AI excels at is the art.
AI video creation is already better than early Hollywood CGI. I've noticed a lot of these stories that like to champion the underdog. Like Houthis attacked X, big mistake. Or someone belittled X, then Y happened. A lot of animals fighting each other, or softcore porn. Whatever gets the clicks. Make enough of them, and make some money for minimal effort.

The problem with AI replacing a of lot jobs is that it's just not good enough yet. It still needs human supervision. That might change in time. Driving employs a lot of people. If that can be perfected, then a lot of people won't be worth hiring. Most gig workers get paid almost nothing as is, so no great loss there.

There is still a place for human excellence, but right now human mediocrity can be replaced by AI slop.
 

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AI video creation is already better than early Hollywood CGI. I've noticed a lot of these stories that like to champion the underdog. Like Houthis attacked X, big mistake. Or someone belittled X, then Y happened. A lot of animals fighting each other, or softcore porn. Whatever gets the clicks. Make enough of them, and make some money for minimal effort.

The problem with AI replacing a of lot jobs is that it's just not good enough yet. It still needs human supervision. That might change in time. Driving employs a lot of people. If that can be perfected, then a lot of people won't be worth hiring. Most gig workers get paid almost nothing as is, so no great loss there.

There is still a place for human excellence, but right now human mediocrity can be replaced by AI slop.
You have entirely too much faith on AI...being real though, as a writer himself...you can see how it hits ivo a little deeper than most people. I giess the same could be saod as a programmer since they're trying to replace us as well. I just find it comical that one day when the AI goes out of wack there wouldnt be anyone to fix it except AI. That'll be the day ot dawns on them--too late.

Say what you will but if AI is handling most of it the need for someone to learn the massive amounts of low level code someone like me has...just isn't a realistic situatuon, hell even the new kiddie languages make it feel like its a worthless chore half the time, most real programmers do it for the love of the code and not for profit and as they simplify it all it takes the joy out of it more and more, and the proof is already there as people mock learning real C++ since alot of the game engines and such don't tap into it and can use C# for most of the same tasks much easier...until that one task comes along its impossible to use for and then they go looking for someone who still knows how to use it.

Nobody will devote a lifetime of learning to fix the low level code when theres nothing worth creating, same with writers and such...when AI becomes mainstream they would be so outclassed in speed and production it would be a nearly impossible career to hold...so regardless of the enjoyment, people will need to put food on the table....and so on and so on.

The cycle doesnt end the way you imagine it does. Unless people are free to not work entirely (god fobid they get more fucking lazy) nobody will bother.

I sacrificed being rich to loving what I do, but theres a difference between being rich and being stable...as i'm obviously proof of now as well. I may not regret my choices...but it doesnt make it any easier to accept my situatuon when it could be entirely different had I.
 

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You have entirely too much faith on AI...being real though, as a writer himself...you can see how it hits ivo a little deeper than most people.
AI doesn't make anything good, but mass produced slop to get clicks, that it does very well. It doesn't need a high success rate. It just needs enough people to click to get some ad money. Also, most humans aren't writing anything good, especially recently.

I watched a human made one, where the title was something like human saves animal, and animal is grateful. The thumbnail was of the animal tangled in rope. I knew that animal would never be grateful, so I watched it. The human cuts the animal free. It tries to bite the human, then runs away without looking back, which is exactly what I expected, and I laughed. Obviously the title was clickbait, and it worked on me.

AI is capable of making many more of these types of videos than a human could. Some will be successful.
Say what you will but if AI is handling most of it the need for someone to learn the massive amounts of low level code someone like me has...just isn't a realistic situatuon
Yes, the learn to code thing did not pan out. Currently, AI can do random noob code quite well. You still need someone at the helm controlling what happens, but a lot of the simple stuff AI can handle, and do well. Will AI code almost entirely on its own at some point? Maybe, but there are limits. Maybe we need a language that plays to AI strengths? A human would need to be in control of that, but it's not impossible.
I sacrificed being rich to loving what I do, but theres a difference between being rich and being stable...as i'm obviously proof of now as well. I may not regret my choices...but it doesnt make it any easier to accept my situatuon when it could be entirely different had I.
We all make choices, and live with them. You can't go back. You can change what you do going forward, but choices you made previously will impact your future options.

AI does some things very well. It has improved a lot. It could improve more at some point, but it has plateaued in many areas.

In some ways AI is impressive, but it's not AGI. It does a few things very well, and is a tool that when used the right way produces results. We're still in the early stages, but compared to previous decades, we have made some big improvements recently. I look forward to seeing what it ends up doing.

As far as humans go, humans will do human things, just like they always have. Horse drawn carriages barely exist. Hardly anyone farms. Things changed. People adapted. The same will happen in future.
 

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Still getting more done than me lately...whole gallery should have been done by the next release...i'm not sure if it will even be implimented now because I need to literally re-do all my evidence for this. Half of it is missing every other page and the rest are b&w which ruins the pictures--and there was ALOT.
It doesn't need to be for the next release. It'll be ready when it's ready. And I think I'll need 2 or 3 weeks before the story and renders are done anyway.
I was actually trying to make 2D images VR for a laugh to see how it was done, seems ffmpeg does this too :LOL:
Can you send me a batch file for upscaling? I was thinking about trying that on some old movies from the 1920s -1970s from my collection.
 

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Can you send me a batch file for upscaling? I was thinking about trying that on some old movies from the 1920s -1970s from my collection.
The upscaling is just that--upscaling, I haven't learned all the nifty tricks for HDR and chroma and luma modifying etc...ffmpeg is a powerful as hell tool, but it might as well be a programming language in itself for someone who doesn't understand all the nifty little features...you'll definitely get better results from programs here, especially in the lines of quality...I had already made a chunk of mine HDR style using DVDFab's (AI upscaler--fuck off ausf lmfao) so I had a head start.

If you just want to resize them and keep the quality I can likely manage that but I need to know the original format and I'm not sure if your GPU supports cuda like mine does, it should but I can't guarantee it.

Go get the latest ffmpeg first of all, install the latest graphics driver, and then run

ffmpeg -i "filename"

on a few of the files and tell me what formats it reports (video and audio encoders/decoders) such as h264 (high), mp3float, if they're ancient its likely to just say mpeg and mp3float or pcm_## but the only way I was able to reproduce the sound properly on all of those types was by telling it to use the same encoder specificslly not using the copy functionality because they're so old.

Also depends if your willing to take the hit on file size, if not you can try to make them mkv files (I did this at the end) but again...this was alot of trial and error not a science I have down...because really there isnt one for shit so old :LOL:

Doing blu ray to mkv and such is one thing, upscaling old ass movies can't really be perfected with a batch...even the AI upscaler failed on a good chunk of them 🤷‍♂️ so I can but its not that simple and it takes some tweaking and test runs.

My old avi batch should work for yours if I change the format and reproduce the same quality but it depends on the codecs they used.
 

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If you just want to resize them and keep the quality I can likely manage that but I need to know the original format and I'm not sure if your GPU supports cuda like mine does, it should but I can't guarantee it.
Of course it supports CUDA. It's Nvidia RTX. How else would I render in the NVIDIA Iray engine? :LOL:
It doesn't matter. I thought there was a sort of default upscaling setting I could use on all my movies.
 

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I've spent nearly two weeks on and off learning everything from file formats and bitrates to complex filters and i'm still a baby, so ya I dont mind helping you out obviously...but don't expect miracle one run 4k videos or your gonna be disappointed. I superscaled mine one size up then used lanczos scaling to get them to 4k after another program suped some of them up.

Honestly I probably should have stopped at 1080p on thr half of them I didnt have improved by the other program but meh they still look the same just larger (too large on some)
 

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Optimist right here...even has me beat :LOL:
Realist. Driving is a pretty common job. If AI got so good that it was a complete waste to employ humans, do you think there'd be a bunch of homeless guys at Home Depot offering to drive people around for food and pocket change, or do you think they'd find something else?

It's not even an overnight thing. Jobs get less well paid. People stop wanting to do it for such long hours and low pay. So younger people are less attracted to it, and AI becomes a more attractive option. It's happening right now.
 

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I thought there was a sort of default upscaling setting I could use on all my movies.
I fucking wish :LOL:

If I know what kind they are I can likely manage a generic one that will work for you....but just like daz shit takes time and burns resources--and it may not always work out on every different file.

Going to mkv would likely be the best option since they're small and its more flexible for a generic option...and you can set it to run while you sleep...but again its best to test one short clip first and check the quality. Its unfortunately not as simple as you were thinking no, maybe for the stuff we make ourselves because we know exactly what it will be for format and size 95% of the time.

But it will still take time on your PC...which is why I was going to handle that end ;)
 

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If ffmpeg was that simple I would already have been over the learning curve :ROFLMAO:

There are probably 300 or more codecs and just as many filters, some work with nvidia others dont.

My-Grain.

Basically its a huge bitch...I only started learning because i'm poor, cheap, and I had needs for our game (or wants) 🤷‍♂️ so two birds one stone.

Everything I do is either for gala, my court case because its personal, our game...and to just waste time while I burn out from the rest lol.

Even when I goof off I have a mission...or i'm gaming lmao.
 
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