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[TTRM]

Bug on #2... Though I screw up on #6 anyway...

The relevant info for Q6 wasn't in my notes, but it did make it's way into my brain during research.
I'd say this one has the same flaw as Q8 though.

My notes for H6:

Death in the Afternoon (1932) is a non-fiction book written by Ernest Hemingway
about the ceremony and traditions of Spanish bullfighting

Death by suicide (gunshot) in 1961, at the age of 61: "had died of a self-inflicted wound to the head"
["quite deliberately" shot himself with his favorite shotgun]


The theme of women and death is evident in stories as early as "Indian Camp".
"Indian Camp" (1924) is a short story written by Ernest Hemingway

 

[Steven]

I have 2-3 more community made quizzes submitted, so for the following week I am planning to use those.

Also, about the somehow fairly vague hints at times, since I was asked, I am sure most of you got used to my style of hints (more or less), but to clarify it to the newcomers. When I put fairly broad/general hints they refer to the extremes (unless I mess up and there are multiple angles to see). So, for example:

Earliest or latest, youngest or oldest, first or last, the minority or majority etc. I am trying to keep it fairly binary.

I usually try to focus on the first few sentences from the wiki related to a topic or the broad results offered by the hint in google, so ideally would be to not just jump to the first result you find, but maybe read a few more headlines, I am trying my best to not make you research someone's entire history, but at least to help you gather some of the general ideas. Also put yourself just a few general questions, just in case, about the hint, like "when, where, how, who", so for example if I would've asked "X death", it might be a question about when he died, how he died or where he died, generally. If it is something more specific, I usually try to add an additional helpful keyword.

However, I know myself that sometimes I can mess up, I am but a human, but I do try to improve. So my suggestion is, if you consider that a hint is not fair or too vague etc. (as I suggested in my list of potential quiz making issues, in the thread about quizapprentices), open a thread about debating hints and keeping track of such hints so I will be more careful in the future and properly making them somehow fair, not too obvious but not too difficult either.

 

[Reiten]

I have 2-3 more community made quizzes submitted, so for the following week I am planning to use those.

Also, about the somehow fairly vague hints at times, since I was asked, I am sure most of you got used to my style of hints (more or less), but to clarify it to the newcomers. When I put fairly broad/general hints they refer to the extremes (unless I mess up and there are multiple angles to see). So, for example:

Earliest or latest, youngest or oldest, first or last, the minority or majority etc. I am trying to keep it fairly binary.

I usually try to focus on the first few sentences from the wiki related to a topic or the broad results offered by the hint in google, so ideally would be to not just jump to the first result you find, but maybe read a few more headlines, I am trying my best to not make you research someone's entire history, but at least to help you gather some of the general ideas. Also put yourself just a few general questions, just in case, about the hint, like "when, where, how, who", so for example if I would've asked "X death", it might be a question about when he died, how he died or where he died, generally. If it is something more specific, I usually try to add an additional helpful keyword.

However, I know myself that sometimes I can mess up, I am but a human, but I do try to improve. So my suggestion is, if you consider that a hint is not fair or too vague etc. (as I suggested in my list of potential quiz making issues, in the thread about quizapprentices), open a thread about debating hints and keeping track of such hints so I will be more careful in the future and properly making them somehow fair, not too obvious but not too difficult either.

Nice to know, I have made a few more quizzes, but since the 2 others that I submitted haven't been used yet, I didn't submit them yet.

 

[TTRM]

wrong answer for #3. It should be "The Torrents of Spring", not The Sun Also Rises

Nope

The Torrents of Spring is a novella written by Ernest Hemingway, published in 1926.

A novella or short novel is a work of narrative prose fiction, longer than a short story but shorter than a novel.

Regrettably, the presence of "The Torrents of Spring" in my notes had me mess up on Q3...

 

[Steven]

Nice to know, I have made a few more quizzes, but since the 2 others that I submitted haven't been used yet, I didn't submit them yet.

Yeah, sorry for not getting around to reply. Since I had a fairly steady flow of quizzes from suzana, I just relied on those lately, however I believe we have finally a 3rd quizapprentice, so I thought that I shall return and and prepare all the community quizzes in one go.

 

[TTRM]

...but wrote down the wrong year for the pulitzer question.

Actually.... that one might have genuinely had the wrong answer be correct.

Pulitzer Prize for Fiction (1953)
The Old Man and the Sea became a book-of-the-month selection, made Hemingway an
international celebrity, and won the Pulitzer Prize in May 1952

Source: Last sentence in second paragraph.

Notice how it states "won the Pulitzer Prize in May 1952"
And yet, 1953 was recognized by the quiz as the correct answer:


For Q2, regarding Nobel Prize, the year for "won" and "received" are the same, but for the Pulitzer they differ.
I guess it's all just subject to the same type of potential confusion as that of the Oscars; Awards are received the year after they are earned.

 

[FreaKill]

Source: Last sentence in second paragraph.

Notice how it states "won the Pulitzer Prize in May 1952"

I noticed that while preparing too and I think that one is just a typo. After all it states at the top of the same page:

Notable awards	Pulitzer Prize for Fiction (1953) Nobel Prize in Literature (1954)

And looking at the page for Pulitzer Prize it lists Hemingway's victory in 1953 as well.

 

[TTRM]

Also, about the somehow fairly vague hints at times.........to clarify it..... When I put fairly broad/general hints they refer to the extremes (unless I mess up and there are multiple angles to see).

"Look beyond what you see"
Feels like a fitting clip here ;p

Also, about the somehow fairly vague hints at times, since I was asked, I am sure most of you got used to my style of hints (more or less), but to clarify it to the newcomers. When I put fairly broad/general hints they refer to the extremes (unless I mess up and there are multiple angles to see). So, for example:

Earliest or latest, youngest or oldest, first or last, the minority or majority etc. I am trying to keep it fairly binary.

I usually try to focus on the first few sentences from the wiki related to a topic or the broad results offered by the hint in google...

Err.... was it something I said? o_0

...when I make them I usually try to rely on the first few paragraphs one can find in searches...

However, I know myself that sometimes I can mess up, I am but a human

You can't fool me, sir. I know you're a cyborg.

 

[TTRM]

I noticed that while preparing too and I think that one is just a typo. After all it states at the top of the same page:

Notable awards	Pulitzer Prize for Fiction (1953) Nobel Prize in Literature (1954)

And looking at the page for Pulitzer Prize it lists Hemingway's victory in 1953 as well.

Had a look at the Pulitzer-list myself too. It does indeed state 1953.
Then again.... the "[year earned] vs [year received]"-thing is still something I hate whenever such topics do show up (it causes a lot of uncertainty at times), especially when, once the question comes up, the years presented as answering-options are sequential.

 

[FreaKill]

For Q2, regarding Nobel Prize, the year for "won" and "received" are the same, but for the Pulitzer they differ.
I guess it's all just subject to the same type of potential confusion as that of the Oscars; Awards are received the year after they are earned.

Then again.... the "[year earned] vs [year received]"-thing is still something I hate whenever such topics do show up (it causes a lot of uncertainty at times), especially when, once the question comes up, the years presented as answering-options are sequential.

That's not how it works I think. You receive the award when you win it, if you can attend the ceremony of course, for instance Hemingway couldn't fly to Stockholm to receive his Nobel Prize and sent a speech instead, and I haven't found when and he actually got his prize.
You do however win an award for something you've already done, so the 1952 novel wins in 1953, and colloquially named 2010 Oscars are all bout 2009 movies. Unless you're Kathryn Bigelow - then your 2008 Hurt Locker somehow counts as a 2009 movie.

PS: moved that comment from my original post for better context and readability.

 

[Hatsuzuki]

Are you far from entering Top-100?

250 points behind rank 100, so not too bad considering I missed a whole quiz aswell. Been in the top 100 often enough so no big deal if it doesn't work out this time

 

[FreaKill]

About vague hints and how to approach them:
#8 and #9 being about the same person was a really strong indicator that some more in-depth information beyond her name was going to be needed, though it only occurred to me later.
Regardless, during quiz I actually remembered that she left Hemingway for an Italian officer, and then proceeded to click Key West . The rest of the time I was basically going: Brain, why you so dumb?

 

[Darky]

however I believe we have finally a 3rd quizapprentice

I wonder if that would be me but I didn't receive any reply so I doubt it.

 

[SkeetSurfer]

Got the false negative on question 2. Fingers crossed...

 

[Keeper Of Monsters]

Again - bug on #2.
This time only visual.

 

[AquaKettleCompare]

Nope, a very real bug on #2. Again.

 

[DarkPoisonousGrotesque]

again second question bugged out, sadly not visual

 

[SkeetSurfer]

Nope, a very real bug on #2. Again.

Yep, may the winners enjoy my many one-cent donations.

 

[TTRM]

Smooth sailing today. 10/10

Technical feedback:
A minor delay on Q1 and Q2 (about 2-3 seconds of delay after the timer hit 0 - hardly worth mentioning)

...and a false negative on Q2


In the end, I got my credits ^^

 

[PurpleOverwhelmProtection]

8/10, which is not bad considering I only knew half of the answers thanks to Google. (I got Q5, Q7 & Q8 right by random luck. And absolutely no idea about Q4 & Q10).
To be fair, I never saw or read HP, so I'm okay with the outcome.