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starporcasa · Mar 14, 2020

Curse you, Yin and Yang!!!

drannyonghermano · Mar 14, 2020

All good, nice quiz!

alphapluspt · Mar 14, 2020

8/10

2 brain freezes. It's points to global ranking,though.

ttrm · Mar 14, 2020

Dang, that was a satisfying 10/10.
Was somewhat worried at Q10: While I know she has made appearances in the movies, I couldn't really recall if she made an appearance in the first movie.
A lot of people were weeded out on Q4 as well.

I'm glad I checked that piece of info twice. ^^

Technical notes: A noticeable delay on Q1 (as has been common), otherwise nothing mentionable.

mr-gentleman · Mar 14, 2020

mojster said:
shrek is love and shrek is live is in my opinion correct answer

Those are some of the immovable truths of the universe, but sadly one can't choose them both, therefor True, which is also a truth, would encapsulate them

ttrm · Mar 14, 2020

starporcasa said:
Curse you, Yin and Yang!!!

You need to get in touch with your chakra. ^^

twigalucie · Mar 14, 2020

starporcasa said:
Curse you, Yin and Yang!!!

oh yeah... that one got us too... I always read the first paragraph of the wiki page to find out what might also be asked... the color symbolism wasn't in there and I simply never thought about checking that one

otherwise. aswesome quiz - one you had actually had to use your brain for

orangejokingquaver · Mar 14, 2020

Nice Quiz. Will there be a QuizMarathon in the near future?

mr-gentleman · Mar 14, 2020

ttrm said:
Dang, that was a satisfying 10/10.
Was somewhat worried at Q10: While I know she has made appearances in the movies, I couldn't really recall if she made an appearance in the first movie.
A lot of people were weeded out on Q4 as well.
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I'm glad I checked that piece of info twice. ^^

Technical notes: A noticeable delay on Q1 (as has been common), otherwise nothing mentionable.

Even if the question said Yin = black and Yang = white, or the other way around, in my opinion it would have still been wrong, since neither are completely white/black (by definition). Unless I'd have used a word like predominantly or in larger proportion.

mr-gentleman · Mar 14, 2020

orangejokingquaver said:
Nice Quiz. Will there be a QuizMarathon in the near future?

Well, with the quarantine and all, technically there would be time for that, but we'll see, no promises.

twigalucie · Mar 14, 2020

orangejokingquaver said:
Nice Quiz. Will there be a QuizMarathon in the near future?

nooo... PLEASE NOOOO

purpleunusualawe · Mar 14, 2020

starporcasa said:
Curse you, Yin and Yang!!!

Same, same.

For reasons unknown to myself, the colors were the only thing I did not check, so I had to resort to fast logic. And, well, it's rather obvious that yin and white share the vowel 'i' while yang and black share the 'a'.

ttrm · Mar 14, 2020

mr-gentleman said:
Even if the question said Yin = black and Yang = white, or the other way around, in my opinion it would have still been wrong, since neither are completely white/black (by definition). Unless I'd have used a word like predominantly or in larger proportion.

Hence the dot of black/white in the middle of the other half.

ttrm · Mar 14, 2020

In regards of H1 for today's quiz...
Who's to say that casting dark magic to vanquish evil is not a benevolent act? ;p

And regarding H2... What would an hindu widow wear if they were to become a widow "after Labour Day"?

keeper-of-monsters · Mar 14, 2020

ttrm said:
In regards of H1 for today's quiz...
Who's to say that casting dark magic to vanquish evil is not a benevolent act? ;p

And regarding H2... What would an hindu widow wear if they were to become a widow "after Labour Day"?

About H1 - we are getting into philosophical issues here, but most widely accepted POV that dark magic also deals with "bad influences", be it dark energies or demonic powers. Either way it corrupts caster's soul and so it's bad. Even if you start with good intentions overtime you will turn to dark side. ;P
Why Harry Potter never used Avada and actually defeated Voldemort with Expelliarmus? One time he tried to use Crucio it didn't work (and Bella explains why). But that's just one example (that most people know about).

As for H2... I just didn't understand the reference. I don't think there's a Labour Day in India?

ttrm · Mar 14, 2020

keeper-of-monsters said:
About H1 - we are getting into philosophical issues here, but most widely accepted POV that dark magic also deals with "bad influences", be it dark energies or demonic powers. Either way it corrupts caster's soul and so it's bad. Even if you start with good intentions overtime you will turn to dark side. ;P
Why Harry Potter never used Avada and actually defeated Voldemort with Expelliarmus? One time he tried to use Crucio it didn't work (and Bella explains why). But that's just one example (that most people know about).

As for H2... I just didn't understand the reference. I don't think there's a Labour Day in India?

HP did successfully use the Imperius Curse though.
Dark magic was just the first that came to mind. Any non-white magic would fit into the question though. (Doesn't even have to be for the purpose of vanquishing evil. Could be something as simple as using a blast of ice to extinguish a fire - surely a benevolent act.) It was a somewhat hastily written question.

As for Labour Day.... The hindu in question doesn't have to be situated in India.

(I originally wrote "American hindu", but after googling Labour Day and seeing that it's not exclusive to the US, I omitted it.)

freakill · Mar 14, 2020

mr-gentleman said:
Even if the question said Yin = black and Yang = white, or the other way around, in my opinion it would have still been wrong, since neither are completely white/black (by definition). Unless I'd have used a word like predominantly or in larger proportion.

Not really?
The whole Yin-Yang system is inseparable, but the Yin is definitely black/female/dark/negative and the Yang is white/male/light/positive. The black and white dots are not always present in representations of Yin-Yang, and when they are it's more of reminder that these things are locked together in balance.
It's always Yin-Yang(in varying proportions), not "Oh, my Yang is a bit dark-ish today."
So asking if Yin is black or white "predominantly or in larger proportion" would only be right when talking about a coloring of a specific illustration.

PS When I was looking up this hint I immediately went from "Uh, which side is which again?" to "Oh people are going to stumble on this one." since it's such a well known thing that you don't even really think about it.

keeper-of-monsters · Mar 14, 2020

ttrm said:
HP did successfully use the Imperius Curse though.
Dark magic was just the first that came to mind. Any non-white magic would fit into the question though. (Doesn't even have to be for the purpose of vanquishing evil. Could be something as simple as using a blast of ice to extinguish a fire - surely a benevolent act.) It was a somewhat hastily written question.

As for Labour Day.... The hindu in question doesn't have to be situated in India.
(I originally wrote "American hindu", but after googling Labour Day and seeing that it's not exclusive to the US, I omitted it.)

HP... And there are numerous discussions about why and how and the influence that use of those spells would have had on him. We don't know much for sure because J.K.R. never gave us much about post-war Magic world (and I don't include The Cursed Child - it never happened

)
As for blast of ice - that's actually a white magic: use of one of the elements (water). Though if you extinguishing a "good" fire (to make people froze)... And again - you can kill with Wingardium Leviosa, but what ultimately make dark magic dark - it's effect on the soul of caster. There never to be a "good side" to Unforgivables. And no - I'm not strictly against euthanasia.

Hindu - means traditional hindu, religion and customs, not just ethnic belonging. And in this regard widow would always wear white.
And I still don't get the reference to Labour Day. I'm missing something here - bad google-fu...

mr-gentleman · Mar 14, 2020

keeper-of-monsters said:
HP... And there are numerous discussions about why and how and the influence that use of those spells would have had on him. We don't know much for sure because J.K.R. never gave us much about post-war Magic world (and I don't include The Cursed Child - it never happened )
As for blast of ice - that's actually a white magic: use of one of the elements (water). Though if you extinguishing a "good" fire (to make people froze)... And again - you can kill with Wingardium Leviosa, but what ultimately make dark magic dark - it's effect on the soul of caster. There never to be a "good side" to Unforgivables. And no - I'm not strictly against euthanasia.

Hindu - means traditional hindu, religion and customs, not just ethnic belonging. And in this regard widow would always wear white.
And I still don't get the reference to Labour Day. I'm missing something here - bad google-fu...

I have an idea about what TT talks about, but googled a bit to be certain and found this:
"That may sound strange, but it is true. Many Americans put away their white clothes on Labor Day and do not wear them again until the following May, after Memorial Day. One reason for the clothing custom relates to the season. In the United States, the months between June and September are summer. "

"The old fashion rule to not wear white after Labor Day is going out of style. It may have originated because people wanted to stay cool or because it was a sign of wealth. But now people are wearing white whenever they want. "

So, he's referring to a contradiction between a social norm (federal holiday related) vs a religious norm, which would prevail in this situation. One tells you to wear only white, the other tells you to completely avoid white. A paradox, of sorts, if you are an avid follower of both customs.

ttrm · Mar 14, 2020

keeper-of-monsters said:
HP... And there are numerous discussions about why and how and the influence that use of those spells would have had on him. We don't know much for sure because J.K.R. never gave us much about post-war Magic world (and I don't include The Cursed Child - it never happened )
As for blast of ice - that's actually a white magic: use of one of the elements (water). Though if you extinguishing a "good" fire (to make people froze)... And again - you can kill with Wingardium Leviosa, but what ultimately make dark magic dark - it's effect on the soul of caster. There never to be a "good side" to Unforgivables. And no - I'm not strictly against euthanasia.

Hindu - means traditional hindu, religion and customs, not just ethnic belonging. And in this regard widow would always wear white.
And I still don't get the reference to Labour Day. I'm missing something here - bad google-fu...

You're taking all the fun out of it. ;p

mr-gentleman said:
So, he's referring to a contradiction between a social norm (federal holiday related) vs a religious norm, which would prevail in this situation. One tells you to wear only white, the other tells you to completely avoid white. A paradox, of sorts, if you are an avid follower of both customs.

Exactly
...though it's much less fun when it has to be explained.

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