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DrAnnyongHermano

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zsorid

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Okay, gamerrobot/zsorid speaking here, and with a confession and a promise to make, which is something a true scammer would never do.

Like DrAnnyongHermano said it, I indeed scammed him, so I'm gonna take responsibility for this, but please, hear me out. I really, honestly didn't know that a key that's already activated would count as a duplicated key, so I only scammed him by accident because of not knowing that - until now. I can be very naive about things, I unfortunately can't help it. (This however, raises a good question about the trades portion of Indiegala. Why does it let everyone also put up keys that are already activated? Why doesn't it warn them they're inputting a key that's already activated? If that part was updated to check that out, we wouldn't have the problem of duplicated/activated keys being traded.) The only reason I put that portion in brackets is because that's not really the point of this post. As a promise, I will only offer keys as trades that I've won in indiegala giveaways and only those keys to both make up for the mistake and from this point onwards. I warn everyone, do not offer games to my previous posts (as in, trades). Or, if this account gets deleted - cause I've written a request for account deactivation to the staff - then as a new account, I will only do the same exact thing as promised. Or, maybe never show myself up on indiegala, whatever would be fitting for the situation. I'm a person that is willing to learn from mistakes, and as such, I'm going to turn over a new leaf and never do that same mistake again.

Thank you from hearing me out.
 
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Keeper Of Monsters

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Okay, gamerrobot/zsorid speaking here, and with a confession and a promise to make, which is something a true scammer would never do.

[snip-snip-snip]

Thank you from hearing me out.

If you aren't absolute noob to Steam you should know that activated key can't be used second time.
If key is open in IG - doesn't mean it's activated. I have a bunch of keys in logs that were open but not activated from various sites, IG included (I have my reasons for doing it this way). That's actually how not-guaranteed giveaways created - with unlocked keys (though gift links from HB also can be used). But there's a difference between "legit" GA/trade and a scam one with used key.
IG doesn't have any means to check if any key is activated or not - only way to check it is through Steam by trying to activate the key.
And if you are trading or giving away keys that you won from non-guaranteed giveaways - you have a risk that those keys are duplicates. And in this case it's still your fault for re-gifting.
Now, if for any reason key turned out to be duplicate - this can be resolved by giving to winner/trader a different key, same game or different game. Of course, for this to work both parties has to be willing to do this. If the other party doesn't want to compromise - well, they are in their right.

This all is not to "rub it in" - it's just maybe you (or somebody else) really doesn't know some of this info.
And kudos to you for coming out like this. Hope you will improve and have a good time here in IG and in Steam.

And a nice weekend to everybody!
 

zsorid

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If you aren't absolute noob to Steam you should know that activated key can't be used second time.
If key is open in IG - doesn't mean it's activated. I have a bunch of keys in logs that were open but not activated from various sites, IG included (I have my reasons for doing it this way). That's actually how not-guaranteed giveaways created - with unlocked keys (though gift links from HB also can be used). But there's a difference between "legit" GA/trade and a scam one with used key.
IG doesn't have any means to check if any key is activated or not - only way to check it is through Steam by trying to activate the key.
And if you are trading or giving away keys that you won from non-guaranteed giveaways - you have a risk that those keys are duplicates. And in this case it's still your fault for re-gifting.
Now, if for any reason key turned out to be duplicate - this can be resolved by giving to winner/trader a different key, same game or different game. Of course, for this to work both parties has to be willing to do this. If the other party doesn't want to compromise - well, they are in their right.

This all is not to "rub it in" - it's just maybe you (or somebody else) really doesn't know some of this info.
And kudos to you for coming out like this. Hope you will improve and have a good time here in IG and in Steam.

And a nice weekend to everybody!

Thanks for understanding and the info you have given to me. I'm willing to take the risk it takes - which really depends on if I win a guaranteed or a non-guaranteed key, but I do hope it's the former - and I'm also signing up for multiple giveaways for the same game in order to increase my chances for winning the same game and hoping it won't come out as a duplicate, due to coming from a non-guaranteed giveaway. I'll also be on the lookout for non-indiegala keys that are not activated, as once, a person on a Discord server I'm on was willing to give out non-activated keys games there and I'll be willing to offer those as trades as well.
 

Keeper Of Monsters

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I'm also signing up for multiple giveaways for the same game in order to increase my chances for winning the same game
umm... That's not how probabilities works... (if I understand you correctly; if I'm mistaken of your intent and you know your math - just ignore this)
It's the same as winning the lottery - no matter how many tickets you buy each ticket have only one theoretical minuscule chance of winning. You can get lucky with one, or you can spend a fortune on tickets and never win a penny. And depending on how this particular lottery works you can even harm your chances of winning jackpot... though it's not the case with IG GAs anyway.
If you're entering multiple times in one "extra odds" giveaway you actually effectively competing with yourself since you can win only 1 time, though statistically it does slightly improve your overall chances of winning this particular giveaway.
Spreading your entries between different giveaways is actually better in a sense - you can win multiple if you are lucky, and competition usually lower so you have higher chances than in "extra-odds" (though this depends on how many entries you have against how many total).
Entering giveaways for just one game and not anything else improves your chances of winning this particular game but not overall chance of winning something in general. Statistically (again) having more entries overall is better, and having entries with less competition is better, so entering many cheaper giveaways is better since you have more entries, but entering high value giveaways can be better since there will be (theoretically) less competition. We also have to account for desirability of different "prizes", and so - how many people want some particular game, better ones (in theory) will have more entries than trash...
But in the end each entry is still independent of others, and each probability is calculated separately, so it all still depends on luck, statistic notwithstanding.
So what it boils down to?.. No matter what you actually do competition in IG giveaways is high and chances are low, so... Good luck! ;)
 

zsorid

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umm... That's not how probabilities works... (if I understand you correctly; if I'm mistaken of your intent and you know your math - just ignore this)
It's the same as winning the lottery - no matter how many tickets you buy each ticket have only one theoretical minuscule chance of winning. You can get lucky with one, or you can spend a fortune on tickets and never win a penny. And depending on how this particular lottery works you can even harm your chances of winning jackpot... though it's not the case with IG GAs anyway.
If you're entering multiple times in one "extra odds" giveaway you actually effectively competing with yourself since you can win only 1 time, though statistically it does slightly improve your overall chances of winning this particular giveaway.
Spreading your entries between different giveaways is actually better in a sense - you can win multiple if you are lucky, and competition usually lower so you have higher chances than in "extra-odds" (though this depends on how many entries you have against how many total).
Entering giveaways for just one game and not anything else improves your chances of winning this particular game but not overall chance of winning something in general. Statistically (again) having more entries overall is better, and having entries with less competition is better, so entering many cheaper giveaways is better since you have more entries, but entering high value giveaways can be better since there will be (theoretically) less competition. We also have to account for desirability of different "prizes", and so - how many people want some particular game, better ones (in theory) will have more entries than trash...
But in the end each entry is still independent of others, and each probability is calculated separately, so it all still depends on luck, statistic notwithstanding.
So what it boils down to?.. No matter what you actually do competition in IG giveaways is high and chances are low, so... Good luck! ;)
Thank you very much. I'm kinda aware of this, as I have not won anything yet - telling this from experience - and that is why I also considered being on the lookout for non-indiegala keys some other people are willing to give on different sites, and yesterday, I have also considered steamgifts giveaways for games I don't want in my library, even if those giveaways work like indiegala giveaways in a way. But whatever it takes, I say.
 

zsorid

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So, not for advertisement purposes, but rather as a proof of my promise, I did win a key at a gleam.io giveaway, and made a trade out of it. Didn't activate the key, just to make sure.


I even tried to add DrAnnyongHermano as a friend, but Steam threw out an error at me, saying that some problem has occured, so I figured they prolly blocked me. If they don't want a key, that's fine, you, Keeper of Monsters said that if they don't want to cooperate, it's their choice not to do so, but again, this is a proof that I will, indeed, trade keys of games that I didn't activate at all, whatever may be the risk.

That is all.
 

YellowElfAwe

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Scam alart on Steam, seems @mickbisson was compromised and is now being used (or not compromised and is willingly doing this or a bot, not sure) for a blastcup CSGO scam to steal accounts. Any trades here will likely be bad.

Steam thread detailing scam, and nearly the identical conversation can be found here

[12:42 PM]
mickbisson:
how are u doing?

[12:43 PM]
Bazil:
Doin ok, hope you are as well

[12:43 PM]
mickbisson:
May I ask u for help?

[12:44 PM]
Bazil:
I'll see what I can do, what's up?

[12:44 PM]
mickbisson:
Can u vote for my csgo team please at blastcup?
need 2 more votes
team ShonK
https://blastcup.fun/

[12:46 PM]
Bazil:
Sure, going to break in a bit and I'll check it out then

[1:03 PM]
mickbisson:
bro?

[1:03 PM]
Bazil:
Yea?

[1:23 PM]
mickbisson:
dude?

[1:23 PM]
Bazil:
Did you need the vote now? I am in the middle of a game.

[1:34 PM]
Bazil:
Don't have an account there, since I don't play CsGo

[1:59 PM]
mickbisson:
mate u here?

[2:00 PM]
Bazil:
Don't have a login, I don't play CSGO

[2:30 PM]
mickbisson:
bruh?

[2:31 PM]
Bazil:
Have you not been reading my messages?

@mickbisson If you are not aware, and you've been hacked, I'd suggest changing your security on every site you use.
 

YellowElfAwe

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Scam alart on Steam, seems @mickbisson was compromised and is now being used (or not compromised and is willingly doing this or a bot, not sure) for a blastcup CSGO scam to steal accounts. Any trades here will likely be bad.

@mickbisson If you are not aware, and you've been hacked, I'd suggest changing your security on every site you use.

Based on Steam account comments, they appear to have been hacked and the issue is hopefully resolved. Good!
 

Aqua

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Another new scammer in the house : IndieGala | Buy PC Games, Steam Keys, Bundles, Steam downloads

Basically, he built a good reputation at first and then he started scamming (Classic). Anyone with bit of trading experience will immediately notice that some of the games that this clown is listing were never been bundled so it would be very expensive to get keys of those games from anywhere (Resellers, online stores ...). His profile is private and now it's unlinked. I'm not being harsh on the ones he scammed , but sometimes traders here do fall into some dumb sh!t like this ... Use your brain people , some of you have been here for long time , even longer than me yet you fall for this ... Avoid this degenerate and warn other legit traders about him.
 
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Aqua

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Better first see what happened than speak, What would you do if i take your code and dont response you for 15 minutes? Anyways that matter is resolved now you dont have any rights to speak. We are good already.

"yOu dOnT HaVe aNy rIgHtS tO SpEaK" What are you? 10 yo ? He's 100% right though. Also, if everything is already resolved and the guy is deffo not a scammer then what's the point of not deleting your comments? They're useless and prove nothing at this point cause this thread is about reporting real scams not your bs so maybe delete your stupid comments that would be more useful.
 
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WaqarG232

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Yes he does not have any rights to speak because i have already apologized to the person and we sorted the things out. And you guys are blind or something? i already made a bold Edit in the post and also quoted that post, so why dont you read it before saying something like that.
 

Aqua

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Yes he does not have any rights to speak because i have already apologized to the person and we sorted the things out. And you guys are blind or something? i already made a bold Edit in the post and also quoted that post, so why dont you read it before saying something like that.

Well, He got all rights to say whatever he wants whenever he wants yet you'll keep bitching about it so you're deffo a child or you got the brain of one and nah i think we all can see but are you blind though? Did i speak chinese? Read again ; This thread is about REAL SCAMS REPORTS not the bs you just posted so saying that you did sort things out proves my point that your comments are so useless and its better if all are gone, is it hard to get this through your skull?
 
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Well, that one escalated quickly...:rolleyes:
Better first see what happened than speak, What would you do if i take your code and dont response you for 15 minutes? Anyways that matter is resolved now you dont have any rights to speak. We are good already.
15 minutes, holy shit what an eternity! :p
I almost added a line about "but I don't know the full context...", since it was just meant like, friendly, advice, but seeing you fly off the handle here, well you are not worth the courtesy.
Someone to avoid in trades at the very least.

He does not have right.
I do. At least as much as you do, when you post in a public forum.
If it was your thread perhaps you could police it some, otherwise as long as I (and anyone else for that matter) stick to IGs community policy, you have no right to deny us :)

(Thank for the support(y))
 
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Aqua

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Alright folks, i think it's time for more proof regarding why this creature we're dealing with here is an utter scumbag and why i keep calling him a degenerate over and over again. I got nothing towards any respectful/legit trader on this site but seeing those same legit traders especially new ones who lacks experience getting screwed by the likes of this dickhead is bad and with the way he scammed @trueseeker recently and how he's laughably keep lying till this moment with no shame at all, i think this is the right time to do something even with the weakest effort possible.

Now that i got the confirmation from Paula that she banned his fake alt accounts i can show you what i was about to post few days before.

Here's paula confirming that she banned his alt accounts which he gave fake reps to himself with : Screenshot

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Just to make it clear i couldn't give two shits if he gets banned or not, the focal point is to show the community (Especially the ones he fooled) who they're really dealing with here. Please read carefully or just don't bother.

N : I had to post screenshots instead of direct links since he's desperately making his alt accs private etc ...

First of all, check those steam profiles real quick and try to find anything that looks kinda similair between them!

Profile 1 : Screenshot

Profile 2 : Screenshot

Profile 3 : Screenshot

Profile 4 : Screenshot

Done that? Well, you'll say : Same few groups joined, same recent played games which are freebies and also lootboy trash that u can get from free packs! (Everyone who have been using lootboy knows about those trash games from free packs). So, there's some sort of a connection between those accounts right? Well, Know what's more interesting? Let's check the friend lists! Oh look who's there? It's mr degenerate himself! Wonder why he's friends with these "people" with sketchy accounts that have the same recently played freebie trash + the same joining day? What a coincidence right?

Well, i think that i actually know why though! Here you go :

https://www.indiegala.com/trades/user/b5882d59c27e11e8a85a6554f07c376e



Who's there giving +reps for each other? It's those same accounts.

Want more evidence? Well here : Steam Community :: Group :: Solomongrup look at those members on that group! I think we've seen these accounts before!

Edit 1 : He also changed everything about the group LOL! Sucks for him that i got screenshot of it
Here : Screenshot

Edit 2 : Group is gone 🤣

Proof of all accs have the same joining date " since 24 June, 2018" with literally few minutes difference between each and every account creation date :



To sum it up : any leech like this degenerate usually and 100% have alt accounts to leech many freebies copies and to farm or scam with ... so you get the point now.

I already got someone here banned who was also using 4 alt accounts before and Paula found out that user was using those accounts with the same ip which is laughable but typical since it's coming from this kind of scammers. Now, after confirmation by Paula you can see that he's dumb as well.

NOTE : If he tries to make those accounts private or change names etc, he'd be wasting his time cause i already stored what i needed from screenshots and the links of those reps are still there even if he unlink those accounts

Finally, as i mentioned i really couldn't care less if he gets banned or not. The focal point is that as you can see, this scumbag did get away with lots of shit starting with :

- Fake reps.
- Scamming. I did expose him before regarding a case with a guy who recently joined but to save time just check his IG reviews page you'll also see that he already got valid -reps from reliable traders.
- Spamming the shit out of the trading section with every recent freebies that he leeched on every available period that this site could offer (3 periods) and he knows about this cause he saw the suggestion thread and how people expressed how they hated that and actually made some traders lose interest in even checking the trading section.
- Lowballing/Highballing other users especially newbies ofc who he likes to take advantage of all day long not only on ig but also on steamtrades and barter. (Can post proof if its needed)
And now ofc with his recent case with TrueSeeker which tells you alot about what kind of "trader" he is. Basically, the worst lowlife trash i've ever seen on this site and i'm not even exaggerating when i say this.

I still got more stuff to share btw, but i'll drop some when it's needed. Have a great day everyone.

Sup folks! Quick update about el famoso scammer/spammer/lowballer/highballer/Fake reps farmer (you name it) on IG the one & only @solomon 😘

Well looks like one of his alt accounts that he farmed fake reps with (Steam Community :: aangvik , aangvik Indiegala) has new "friends" (Private profiles ofc) after he deleted himself from that friends list when he got exposed (Screenshot). Let's just get to the point, these are just two of his other god knows how many alt accounts that he prolly farm cards & all that giveaway trash he collects everyday as i mentioned before so maybe if you see one of these accounts popping up on the trading section one day (Giving fake reps or trading ...) just know that's him.

Here's a screenshot in case he make that profile private like he did before : Screenshot

Perma links of the two alts :

- Steam Community :: evgexa5rub
- Steam Community :: dratuteb

Ah! Also one more thing, instead of offering this leech any bundled or unbundled game for this https://www.indiegala.com/trades/post/228706 just get it for free as he did from here :
Ciao.


Edit : He made that profile private today (11th Feb) : Steam Community :: aangvik but that's expected hence why this Screenshot exists. Nice one @solomon 🤡
 
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Lord Blackblood

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Sup folks! Quick update about el famoso scammer/spammer/lowballer/highballer/Fake reps farmer (you name it) on IG the one & only @solomon 😘

Well looks like one of his alt accounts that he farmed fake reps with (Steam Community :: aangvik , aangvik Indiegala) has new "friends" (Private profiles ofc) after he deleted himself from that friends list when he got exposed (Screenshot). Let's just get to the point, these are just two of his other god knows how many alt accounts that he prolly farm cards & all that giveaway trash he collects everyday as i mentioned before so maybe if you see one of these accounts popping up on the trading section one day (Giving fake reps or trading ...) just know that's him.

Here's a screenshot in case he make that profile private like he did before : Screenshot

Perma links of the two alts :

- Steam Community :: evgexa5rub
- Steam Community :: dratuteb

Ah! Also one more thing, instead of offering this leech any bundled or unbundled game for this https://www.indiegala.com/trades/post/228706 just get it for free as he did from here :
Ciao.


Edit : He made that profile private today (11th Feb) : Steam Community :: aangvik but that's expected hence why this Screenshot exists. Nice one @solomon 🤡
great work Aqua!
 

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...until today this evil Solomon was my one and only bad experience with trading on indiegala:


But unfortunatelly indiegala still protect him for any reason! :cry:

Why, indiegala, why?! (n)
 
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